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IBM's Opposition to SCO's Motion to File a Supplemental Memo Re Discovery - as text
Sunday, August 29 2004 @ 12:51 AM EDT

Here is IBM's Opposition to SCO's Ex Parte Motion for Leave to File a Supplemental Memorandum Regarding Discovery as text. It makes reference to incidents that are not publicly known, SCO's motion being sealed (#245 on Pacer), so it's not possible to be dogmatic as to what it means.

What it appears to mean is that IBM is sick of SCO not playing by the rules. Enough with the motions. They have told the court in 56 pages of various briefs that they want more AIX code. Now they wish to ask in a new way in 10 more pages, with exhibits and a 6-page declaration, but they didn't even wait to get the court's permission before filing their proposed supplemental memo, which is improper. And IBM accuses them of basing their filing in part on privileged materials that, under the rules the parties are supposed to abide by, SCO should instead have returned to IBM on their request.

*****************************

SNELL & WILMER L.L.P.
Alan L. Sullivan (3152)
Todd M. Shaughnessy (6651)
Amy F. Sorenson (8947)
[address]
[phone]
[fax]

CRAVATH, SWAINE & MOORE LLP
Evan R. Chesler (admitted pro hac vice)
David R. Marriott (7572)
[address]
[phone]
[fax]

Attorneys for Defendant/Counterclaim-Plaintiff
International Business Machines Corporation

IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
FOR THE DISTRICT OF UTAH

THE SCO GROUP, INC.,

Plaintiff/Counterclaim-Defendant,


v.

INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS MACHINES
CORPORATION,

Defendant/Counterclaim-Plaintiff.
DEFENDANT/COUNTERCLAIM-PLAINTIFF
IBM'S OPPOSITION TO SCO'S EX PARTE
MOTION FOR LEAVE TO FILE A
SUPPLEMENTAL MEMORANDUM
REGARDING DISCOVERY



Civil No. 2:03CV-0294 DAK

Honorable Dale A. Kimball

Magistrate Judge Brooke C. Wells

International Business Machines Corporation ("IBM") respectfully submits this opposition to the Ex Parte Motion for Leave to File a Supplemental Memorandum Regarding Discovery filed by The SCO Group, Inc. ("SCO").

On June 1, 2004, SCO filed a 17-page "Memorandum Regarding Discovery" which, though not styled a motion to compel, seeks an order compelling IBM to produce billions of additional lines of source code for AIX and Dynix (including source code that never actually appeared in any release of those products), together with potentially millions of additional documents concerning the development of AIX and Dynix over the past 20 years. Then, on July 8, 2004 (before briefing on SCO's "Memorandum Regarding Discovery" was even complete), SCO filed a "Renewed" Motion to Compel, together with a 12-page supporting memorandum, addressed in large part to the exact same issue — i.e., the production of all of IBM's internal source code files. SCO then filed, on July 13, 2004, a 27-page "Reply Memorandum Regarding Discovery". SCO's reply brief in support of its "Renewed" Motion to Compel is due tomorrow.

Now, over a month after briefing on the "Memorandum Regarding Discovery" was complete, SCO seeks permission to file yet another memorandum on the same subject (and, in fact, has improperly filed that supplemental memorandum before being granted leave to do so). SCO's request for yet another memorandum on the subject should be denied.

First, SCO already has been afforded more than adequate briefing on this issue. Local Rule DUCivR 7-1(b) permits the filing of a supporting memorandum, an opposition memorandum, and a reply memorandum; it expressly provides that "[n]o additional memoranda will be considered without leave of court." SCO's filing of its supplemental memorandum, without first obtaining leave of Court to do so, is therefore itself improper. More importantly, by filing its "Memorandum Regarding Discovery," followed immediately by a "Renewed" Motion to Compel, SCO already has helped itself to four memoranda on the same subject. To date, and without considering SCO's proposed supplemental memorandum or its reply memorandum due tomorrow, SCO has submitted 56 pages of briefs. It now proposes to submit an additional 10-page brief, a six-page declaration, and eight new exhibits, raising new arguments to which IBM has not been afforded an opportunity to respond.

Second, SCO's proposed supplemental memorandum discusses two documents, which SCO misrepresents, that are protected by the attorney-client privilege. Indeed, the sole basis SCO offers for its untimely submission is that it "recently" discovered "IBM documents and correspondence supporting its position and suggesting new, independent reasons for granting SCO's Motion to Compel Discovery." Ex Parte Motion, at 2.(1) The "documents and correspondence" to which SCO refers include Exhibits D and E to the Declaration of Jeremy O. Evans submitted with SCO's supplemental memorandum. These documents, however, are privileged and confidential communications between IBM employees and IBM's in-house counsel. Under paragraph 3(k) of the parties' attorney planning meeting report, "[d]ocuments that a party claims as privileged, including all copies made, will be returned immediately upon the request of the disclosing party without the need to show the production was inadvertent." IBM has demanded, pursuant to paragraph 3(k), that SCO immediately return these documents. (See Ex. A hereto). Therefore, they cannot properly form the basis of SCO's motion papers, and the Court should, for this additional reason, deny SCO's request for leave to file a supplemental memorandum.

For these foregoing reasons, IBM respectfully requests that the Court deny SCO's Ex Parte Motion for Leave to File a Supplemental Memorandum Regarding Discovery.

DATED this 25th day of August, 2004.

SNELL & WILMER L.L.P.
(signature)
Alan L. Sullivan
Todd M. Shaugnessy
Amy F. Sorenson

CRAVATH, SWAINE & MOORE LLP
Evan R. Chesler
David R. Marriott

Attorneys for Defendant/Counterclaim-Plaintiff International Business Machines Corporation

Of counsel:

INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS MACHINES CORPORATION
Donald J. Rosenberg
Alec S. Berman
[address]
[phone]

Attorneys for Defendant/Counterclaim-Plaintiff
International Business Machines Corporation


CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE

I hereby certify that on the 25th day of August, 2004, a true and correct copy of the foregoing was hand delivered to the following:

Brent O. Hatch
Mark F. James
HATCH, JAMES & DODGE, P.C.
[address]


and was sent by U.S. Mail, postage prepaid, to the following:

Stephen N. Zack
Mark J. Heise
BOIES, SCHILLER & FLEXNER LLP
[address]

Robert Silver
BOIES, SCHILLER & FLEXNER LLP
[address]

(signature)


  1. SCO also discusses, yet again, its contention that production of data from IBM's CMVC system is not overly burdensome, and submits the Declaration of Barbara Howe, an "independent contractor" for SCO, in part to support this argument. SCO's ex parte motion does not even attempt to show that the information regarding CMVC, or the testimony of Barbara Howe, was not available to it at the time it filed its principal briefs. In short, SCO makes absolutely no effort to show just cause for its late submission of this information and, on this basis alone, the Court should disregard SCO's arguments concerning CMVC.




  


IBM's Opposition to SCO's Motion to File a Supplemental Memo Re Discovery - as text | 103 comments | Create New Account
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Corrections Here
Authored by: NastyGuns on Sunday, August 29 2004 @ 01:26 AM EDT

Corrections if needed go here.

---
NastyGuns,
"If I'm not here, I've gone out to find myself. If I return before I get back, please keep me here." Unknown.

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OT Links and Comments Here
Authored by: NastyGuns on Sunday, August 29 2004 @ 01:30 AM EDT

Just as the title states, OT links and comments go here.

---
NastyGuns,
"If I'm not here, I've gone out to find myself. If I return before I get back, please keep me here." Unknown.

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Rare slip by IBM's lawyers
Authored by: Anonymous on Sunday, August 29 2004 @ 02:31 AM EDT
The "documents and correspondence" to which SCO refers include Exhibits D and E to the Declaration of Jeremy O. Evans submitted with SCO's supplemental memorandum. These documents, however, are privileged and confidential communications between IBM employees and IBM's in-house counsel.
This is the first significant error I can remember IBM's legal team making. The sharp tone of this memorandum may be in part based on the embarrassment of the lawyers concerned.

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Barbara Howe
Authored by: whoever57 on Sunday, August 29 2004 @ 03:02 AM EDT
Barbara Howe: the same Barbara Howe that was fired by SCO (well laid-off might
be a better term) -- check on ocston.com.

I wonder how much they had to pay her to testify on SCO's behalf?

I assume she worked on Project Monterey and through this had some exposure to
IBM's CM system.

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Why use privileged communication as an exhibit?
Authored by: AG on Sunday, August 29 2004 @ 03:13 AM EDT
Thats just royaly stupid on SCO's part. Privileged communication cannot be
admitted as evidence and will be thrown out. Even if they just found
documents in which IBM admits killing Kennedy and sinking the Titanic, if in-
house council was involved, the court will not even look at it. So why bother
attaching them to a motion? This is beyond stupid. This is malpractice.

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We're a software company your honor...
Authored by: Anonymous on Sunday, August 29 2004 @ 03:26 AM EDT
...and this is only a beta version of our case. When we release our nth
revision we're sure you'll like our case.

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Broken Record.
Authored by: mobrien_12 on Sunday, August 29 2004 @ 05:22 AM EDT
Let's look at this. They have not been able to show evidence, with specificity,
that any of their copyrights have been violated (or, for that fact, been able to
prove that they own copyrights to UNIX source code).

IBM gave them source code for the latest released Dynix and AIX as ordered by
Judge Wells.

But all they seem to be able to say is "we have to have every piece of code
ever for Dynix and AIX." Despite that scaling their own estimations of
source code analysis time means that it would take millions of man-years to
analyze. Despite that they know source code has to be different from beginning
to end. Despite the fact that they have no expertise to testify to how easy it
would be for IBM to deliver the entire world to them on a platter with choclate
sauce poured all over it.

They are continually asking over and over again for the same thing, with IBM
continually rebuting their claims with logic and law ("Ooops...that didn't
work...find SOMETHING else to say why we must have all their code....).

Same old story... we see NO CASE.

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IBM's Opposition to SCO's Motion to File a Supplemental Memo Re Discovery - as text
Authored by: Anonymous on Sunday, August 29 2004 @ 05:32 AM EDT
I am finding this whole thing rather depressing. How can such
a thing be allowed to continue? What is the world comming to?
I'm sorry, but all these motions and counter motions just to
delay a hearing on the simple truth! When a bureaucracy grows
to the point where it can allow such an injustice to continue,
perhaps it's time to re-engineer it. As a software developer
I am quite familiar with the concept. When a system becomes
to big and kludgy, it is impossible to maintain. Where is the
SEC? Where is the justice department? SCO has had an entirely
to large of an impact on our lives for this to continue. I
remeber a time when incompetence and stupidity would result in
business failure. Now we have the courts to file nuisance
law suits in a bid to be purchased and make a killing in the
markets. Someone shoot me please! I can't take it anymore!

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A quick question Re: Non-released AIX code.
Authored by: Anonymous on Sunday, August 29 2004 @ 05:57 AM EDT

SCO is asking for intermediate versions of AIX. SCO already has the released
versions. Surely the existence of SCO/Linux/whatever copyright code in the
intermediate releases is close to irrelevant.

Copyright damages will only be significant for shipping + paid for products.

An analogy: What if a developer accidentally checked-in a MP3 rip of his/her
CD, and then deleted it? Can IBM be sued $$$$$$$$ for that?

Even the derivative work argument is astonishingly weak in the case where no
copyright code can be fingered in the code that actually ships.

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IBM's Opposition to SCO's Motion to File a Supplemental Memo Re Discovery - as text
Authored by: Jorge on Sunday, August 29 2004 @ 08:01 AM EDT
It would seem the SCO legal team is using the Simpson's tactic.

(Bart & Lisa) Can we go to Mount Rushmore? (Homer) No.
(Bart & Lisa) Can we go to Mount Rushmore? (Homer) No.
(Bart & Lisa) Can we go to Mount Rushmore? (Homer) No.
(Bart & Lisa) Can we go to Mount Rushmore? (Homer) No.

(SCO Legal Team) Can we have more source code?
(SCO Legal Team) Can we have more source code?
(SCO Legal Team) Can we have more source code?
(SCO Legal Team) Can we have more source code?

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The Evidence SCO wants to introduce
Authored by: om1er on Sunday, August 29 2004 @ 08:22 AM EDT
My guess is that SCOG wants to introduce the memo from an IBM employee that said
IBM might be using OpenServer without a valid license, the one that SCOG claimed
a few weeks ago proved IBM was violating their IP.

Wasn't it shown on Groklaw a while back that the IBM memo was incorrect, and
that IBM had a valid license?

But would SCOG want IBM to prove that in court, since it would provide more
smokescreen and eye-irritant?

If it is that particular memo, or another that SCOG should not be allowed to
introduce into the record, that just shows that SCOG has given up all hope and
is trying anything to interrupt progress in this case. I hope IBM gets that
point across to the judge.

----------------

On another note, this IBM filing appears to have more than the usual number of
grammatical errors and/or missing words.


---
Are we there yet?

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This is almost completely ridiculous!
Authored by: seanlynch on Monday, August 30 2004 @ 10:58 AM EDT
This is almost completely ridiculous!

Of course it would be easy for IBM to produce the major versions of AIX that
were checked into the source control system, just as Mr. Sontag believes.

As A matter of fact, IBM has already produced these changes. But this is not
what SCO is asking for, so why are they wasting the Court's time telling the
Court that it should be easy for IBM to do what it has alredy done.

However, it would not be easy for IBM to produce all of the discarded fluff that
the programmers tried and didn't use. As well as code that was added and
rejected for other reasons. SCO also wants the programmers notes, legal pads,
and post-it notes. Much of this may not even have never been checked in to the
source management system.

SCO wants the Court to know that an efficient company like IBM should have
written a system that can produce items never entered into the system.

I guess SCO is used to producing lawsuits based on no evidence, that they think
it should be easy for a big company like IBM to apply the SCO 'Something From
Nothing' business philosophy.

SCO even want code that might have been added, and rejected for legal reasons!
This is not dishonest or cheating, this is the legal way to do things! If a team
of developers create a software algorithm to do something, like compress a file,
the team will test that algorithm. The team will correct errors, document how it
works, make sure the code meets the company coding standards. But the
development team is not made up of lawyers.

The legal department will review the code from a legal point of view. Having
programmers do legal analysis would be as productive as having the cleaning
staff or the marketing staff do legal review. Actually the cleaning staff would
probably do a much better job that the marketing staff. If the legal department
finds that the code in the new algorithm might infringe on some competitors
patent, the code gets rejected. This means that the possibly infringing code
never makes it to a release. This is how it needs to be done.

SCO is spinning its wheels here and going nowhere fast. The Judges in this case
are not easily fooled.

I'm sure that IBM won't hesitate in pointing this out as well.

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