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UPDATE: We have incorporated your suggestions, and done some formatting changes, which I'd like your feedback on, and the permanent page is now here. You can reach it any time by clicking on ODF in the list of permanent pages.
Here's a draft of what will be a new permanent page on Groklaw, a timeline of all important events in the story of Massachusetts' adoption of Open Formats, Open Standards and it's a compilation of resources. It's in four sections: 1) resources; 2) by topic; 3) events chronologically; and 4) miscellaneous resources. There is some overlap, so that everyone can find what they are looking for, no matter how they approach it. If you can't find it anywhere else, look in the chronological list. This is a group work by Groklaw members, on which many volunteers labored. It is intended as a resource for journalists, legislators, and the public, for anyone who wishes to understand the story better and/or who may be searching for a particular event or document related to this ongoing history. Please look our draft over, and let me know of any corrections, additions, or subtractions, or if you see a better way to organize it, please suggest it. When it's finished, it will be added to the list of Groklaw's permanent links as ODF/MS-XML or MA TIMELINE, or some title you suggest. It has to be short to fit in the space for links. One thing I see we need to add is a section on the disability issue, if anyone wishes to tackle it.
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THE MASSACHUSETTS ODF-MS XML TIMELINE/RESOURCE PAGE
RESOURCES
Blogs: Andy Updegrove's Standards blog
Sun's Simon Phipps
David Berlind
Microsoft's Brian Jones
IBM's Bob Sutor
Dan Bricklin
Peter Korn, Sun's Accessibility Architect
Audio, Video, Transcripts of Public Meetings:
Eric Kriss January 18, 2005 Speech on Open Formats -Transcripts and audio
MP3 of September 16 meeting on Open Formats - Transcript of meeting
Transcript of Oct. 31, 2005 hearing in MA, statements by Microsoft, asking to be included;
Audio
Audio of December 14 meeting on ODF/MS XML in MA; Agenda for meeting, speakers; Transcript of MS' Alan Yates' remarks
TOPICS
Accessibility: Massachusetts, Open Document, and Accessibility, by Peter Korn, SUN Accessibililty ArchitectOpenOffice.org Accessibility Project
OpenOffice.org Disabilities and Assistive Technology
DOJ Section 508 Home Page; statute
ODF Subpar for Disabled? Not so Fast, Says Google Researcher
Top National Advocate for Disabled Sets Terms for Endorsement of ODF
Covenants Not to Sue:
Sun's ODF covenant not to sue
Microsoft Covenant Regarding Office 2003 XML Reference Schemas
Microsoft FAQ explaining covenant
Andy Updegrove's comparison of Sun's covenant not to sue with Microsoft's
Microsoft FAQ on Office 2003 XML
Legal:
Problems Noted in MS' Original License for XML - GPL Excluded
Larry Rosen Delighted with Microsoft's Covenant not to sue
Questions raised by Sun's Simon Phippps and Groklaw about Microsoft's covenant not to sue
2 escape hatches identified in covenant not to sue - confirmed by Larry Rosen
MA amendment offered to block ITD
MS Terms of Reference for Ecma
Sun's ODF covenant not to sue
Microsoft Covenant Regarding Office 2003 XML Reference Schemas
Microsoft FAQ explaining covenant
Andy Updegrove's comparison of Sun's covenant not to sue with Microsoft's
Microsoft FAQ on Office 2003 XML
Brief of the Information Technology Division Regarding Adoption of Open Document Format [PDF]- Linda Hamel, Esq., General Counsel, ITD, MA
Massachusetts Documents:
MA Enterprise Technical Reference Model (ETRM)
MA Public Records Law and the question of universal access
MA Information Technology Division FAQ on open policy
Brief of the Information Technology Division Regarding Adoption of Open Document Format [PDF]- Linda Hamel, Esq., General Counsel, ITD, MA
OpenDocument Format:
The Open Document Format for Office specification
Widipedia on OpenDocument
Answering Microsoft: Comments on Microsoft's Letter to MA ~ by David A. Wheeler
The Future Is Open: What OpenDocument Is And Why You Should Care
Standards:
Ecma Powerpoint on their policies
OASIS paper, Patents and Open Standards
When Open Standards Really Matter - The Katrina Factor
An Economic Basis for Open Standards
Tech:
CCIA Explains Interoperability Issues with MS' XML
Format comparison between ODF and XML
Security expert Dan Geer's Letter to MA Senator Pacheco
2005 EVENTS CHRONOLOGICALLY
MA says MS will change XML license to qualify - January 14
Eric Kriss Speech on Open Formats -Transcripts and audio, January 18
MA Posts New Draft of Open Formats standard, requests comments - March 22
Microsoft Tries to Qualify as Open Format -
March 24
Problems Noted in MS' License for XML - GPL Excluded
MA Chooses OASIS OpenDoc XML as Office Standard - Requesting Comments - August 31
Sun's Simon Phipps answers critic of MA decision - September 8
MP3 of September 16 meeting on Open Formats - Transcript of meeting- September 16
MA - Final Decision to go with ODF - September 23
Reactions to MA decision to go with ODF - September 25
Comments from around the world on MA's ITD website
Sun's ODF covenant not to sue
OpenDocument XML standard submitted to the ISO/IEC JTC1 (International Organization for Standardization International Electrotechnical Commission's Joint Technical Committee) for further approval as a de jure standard, September 2005
Pro-MS FUD on FOX News and corrections - September 29, 30
Microsoft To Support PDF in Office 12 - October 3
Microsoft's Initial Reaction: Unfair - October 15
Microsoft: We were railroaded in Massachusetts on ODF, ZDNET, Berlind - October 17
MS won't support ODF
Microsoft's Second Reaction, maybe to ODF - October 16
French company found writing ODF plugin for MS - October 27
Microsoft General Manager Alan Yates' letter to MA in opposition to ODF
KOffice letter in reply;
other letters
Answering Microsoft: Comments on Microsoft's Letter to MA ~ by David A. Wheeler - October 29
Transcript of Oct. 31, 2005 hearing in MA, statements by Microsoft, asking to be included;
Audio
MA politicians intervene, the disability issue - November 3
Sun Microsystem's CEO Scott McNealy's letter to Peter Quinn, ITD Director & Chief Information Officer for the Commonwealth of Massachusetts
Sun announces they'll convert Word files to ODF - November 8
Andy Updegrove reports on political events November 9
Brief of the Information Technology Division Regarding Adoption of Open Document Format [PDF] by Linda Hamel, Esq., General Counsel, ITD, MA, submitted to The Honorable Marc Pacheco, Chair, Senate Post Audit Committee - November 16
MA politicos try to wrest control of IT decisions - Amendment introduced - November 17
MS announces Ecma submission plan; Larry Rosen supports it - November 21
MS covenant not to sue announced - November 23
Boston Globe attack on Peter Quinn - November 26;
exonerated December 10
Reactions to MS' "glimmer of openness" in covenant not to sue and some history of MS standards tricks - November 28
MA warms to MS after announcement about Ecma - November 28
Legal and other questions raised by Sun's Simon Phippps and Groklaw about Microsoft's covenant not to sue and issues about Ecma policies - November 29
2 escape hatches identified in covenant not to sue - confirmed by Larry Rosen - December 2
IBM's letter to Gov. Romney - December 5
The terms of reference for MS' ECMA submission leaked - December 7
CCIA Calls on Ecma to Reject MS XML - December 7
Ecma votes yes to setting up MS technical committee - December 8
Security expert Dan Geer's letter to Sen. Pacheco - December 9
Microsoft publishes FAQ explaining covenant not to sue - December 13
Audio of December 14 meeting on ODF/MS XML in MA; Agenda for meeting, speakers; Transcript of MS' Alan Yates' remarks - December 14
5 US Library Associations Support ODF, Send Letter to MA Sec. of State William Galvin
MISCELLANEOUS
Reactions to MS' "glimmer of openness" and history of MS standards tricks
Report of a large-scale migration project
OpenDocument XML adopted in Australia for long-term storage of government documents
Norwegian Minister: Proprietary Formats No Longer Acceptable in Communication with Government
Corel Commits to ODF
David Wheeler's Why OpenDocument won
ZDNET: MS Should Just Support ODF
EU Commission says MS not doing enough to allow interoperability
MS' US XML Patent application
New Zealand patent application
Video of October 27, 2005 conference at on ODF at Berkman Center meeting on how standards support interoperability; link to audio
Microsoft file standard offers 'minimum openness' - ZDNET
Microsoft assaults monoculture' - CNET
Legal Analyst Sees Defect in Microsoft Open XML Initiative
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| Authored by: alisonken1 on Thursday, December 15 2005 @ 05:51 PM EST |
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- Ken -
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Slackin' since 1994 -
import std_disclaimer.py
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| Authored by: alisonken1 on Thursday, December 15 2005 @ 05:52 PM EST |
And to think I finally made both!
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- Ken -
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- Microsoft sued over patents - Authored by: John_Doe#1 on Thursday, December 15 2005 @ 06:31 PM EST
- Off-topic here - Authored by: PJ on Thursday, December 15 2005 @ 07:16 PM EST
- More ballistic furniture? - Authored by: Jude on Thursday, December 15 2005 @ 08:27 PM EST
- Boston Globe spin: Microsoft bows to Mass. with open records format - Authored by: SpaceLifeForm on Thursday, December 15 2005 @ 08:53 PM EST
- Note the keywords - Authored by: SpaceLifeForm on Friday, December 16 2005 @ 12:32 AM EST
- Request for comments - Authored by: grouch on Friday, December 16 2005 @ 01:07 AM EST
- "Official: Voting machines hacked " - Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, December 16 2005 @ 04:48 AM EST
- A dire warning - Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, December 16 2005 @ 01:07 PM EST
- www.linux.org - Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, December 16 2005 @ 05:07 AM EST
- www.linux.org - Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, December 16 2005 @ 06:22 AM EST
- "Mona Lisa 'happy', computer finds" - Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, December 16 2005 @ 06:22 AM EST
- Superior Linux Technology not Stopping Microsoft - Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, December 16 2005 @ 07:13 AM EST
- US Library Associations write to William Galvin in support of ODF in MA. - Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, December 16 2005 @ 09:09 AM EST
- Locked up for life for burning two wheelie bins (UK) - Authored by: TiddlyPom on Friday, December 16 2005 @ 10:07 AM EST
- Safer surfing for Windoze users. - Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, December 16 2005 @ 10:58 AM EST
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| Authored by: Felix_the_Mac on Thursday, December 15 2005 @ 06:44 PM EST |
If I was arriving at Groklaw for the first time looking for info on the MS vs
ODF story, I could well not recognize that the "MA Timeline" link was
the pertinent one.
I would suggest something like "ODF / MS XML"[ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: omz on Thursday, December 15 2005 @ 07:32 PM EST |
| great article and very useful !! [ Reply to This | # ]
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- Agreed - Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, December 16 2005 @ 07:36 AM EST
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| Authored by: dm42 on Thursday, December 15 2005 @ 07:41 PM EST |
2 thoughts - (1) put the dates before the article and not after. (2) maybe
format it as an unorderd list (or maybe table?)
e.g.
- DATE 1
- Article/Link 1 - brief synopsis
- Article/Link 2 - brief synopsis
- Article/Link 3 - brief synopsis
- Date 2
- Article/Link -
brief synopsis
Just a thought.
Keep up the good work all![ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: alangmead on Thursday, December 15 2005 @ 09:33 PM EST |
| Do you want copies of the MA Accounting and Finance Travel
Guidelin
es and Travel Authorization
Form? Or are those too much on the fringe of the story. [ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: bsstmiller on Thursday, December 15 2005 @ 09:44 PM EST |
<a
href="http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1902178,00.asp?kc=EWRSS03129TX1K
0000616">ODF: The Better, More Affordable Office Standard</a>[ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: grouch on Friday, December 16 2005 @ 02:58 AM EST |
I'm about half-way through the page.
Anybody else working on it?
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http://edge-op.org/links1.html
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| Authored by: RPN on Friday, December 16 2005 @ 04:52 AM EST |
I'm afraid I don't have any real time and expertise to contribute but know
enough of such tasks to know that a lot of work has gone into this new resource.
Thanks everyone, much appreciated.
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| Authored by: AntiFUD on Friday, December 16 2005 @ 08:22 AM EST |
| I don't know if this is still of interest, but I found it to be well worth
reading and I now find that it has been replied to by Microsoft and Sun. I must
admit that I haven't read the replies yet (I may comment further when I have had
a chance to compare the three documents with my understanding of the most recent
events in MA.).
The report entitled: Comparative assessment of Open
Documents Formats Market Overview is available as a 367KB pdf together with the
replies (MS 68KB pdf and SUN 38KB pdf) at the IDABC
Website
Since the report compares all the document types including
(La)TeX, XHTML, PS, DocBook, XML Data Package, pdf, Framemaker, Kword, AbiWord,
WordML, Word (8 versions!), rtf, WordPerfect, StarWriter, StarOffice, and OOo,
and describes how XML works (and what Standards it uses/used) I found it very
educational in assessing Massachusetts' ETRM.
Hope this
helps.
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IANAL - But IAAAMotFSF(not related to Daniel Wallace) - Free
to Fight FUD
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, December 16 2005 @ 09:30 AM EST |
LinkBrian
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| Authored by: cknadle on Friday, December 16 2005 @ 10:35 AM EST |
Wow, what an excellent page of information. I like the organization with
multiple formats. It should help explain that MS is not being so forthcoming in
their statements of 1) "we've never been against the ODF format",
which is highly unlikely, and 2) their real intent -- that of control -- in
proposing that everyone go with _their_ format.
Although they've been working on the arguments against using their format, they
haven't put in as much effort into fixing it to make it the _right_ format for
everyone. I wish they were more willing to do that.
-- Chris
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| Authored by: bphenry on Friday, December 16 2005 @ 10:54 AM EST |
There is an interview
with Gare Edwards on Mad Penquin that I think would be prudent to include in
the Miscellaneous section.
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| Authored by: marbux on Friday, December 16 2005 @ 01:50 PM EST |
| I'd like to see two short sections added somewhere:
Applications supporting
OpenDocument:
OpenDocument Development Tools:
Also, I'm not sure how to pull it off, but somehow
we need to indicate that Wikipedia's OpenDocument article is
the major Web intersection for OpenDocument information. Maybe
give it a category of its own called "starting point?"
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| Authored by: marbux on Friday, December 16 2005 @ 01:55 PM EST |
| I think the links would be far easier to read and skim if each category was done
as an unordered list so each entry is preceded by a bullet and indented.
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, December 19 2005 @ 09:48 AM EST |
I am puzzled. If a handicaped individuals owns a Mac or Linux based computer
and tries to access a MicroSponge document, isn't that an issue?
I have been
denied access to websites because they only support Internet Exploder. Do i
have a case for denied freedom of information?
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