| Mesirow's Exhibit E - The Necessary, Reasonable Expenses |
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Tuesday, December 25 2007 @ 12:53 AM EST
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Here is the Mesirow Financial Consulting's Exhibit E, detailing its employees' expenses for the time period September 14-November 30, 2007, which you will no doubt want to study in conjunction with Mesirow's Exhibit D, the itemization of employees' hours spent on various tasks, all of which Mesirow filed in an Application for Compensation with the Bankruptcy Court in Delaware in hopes of getting paid, to the tune of nearly a half million dollars. Presumably, there will be more billings for December and onward until SCO either goes belly up into Chapter 7, sells its assets, or runs out of money.
Our volunteer who did the text for us mentions some details that seemed odd to him, namely some one-way tickets followed by round trip tickets a few days later between the same destinations, raising questions about whether they were both for the same trip or exactly how the employee got home or what happened to the return part of the ticket. Also, he notes some apparent mistakes, like Todd Zoha billing his 11/12 New York City hotel room as Provo, UT instead, at $600/ night! -- which rate might be hard to find in Provo. Even in New York, that isn't low end. For example, at the super swank Carlyle Hotel on Manhattan's fashionable Upper East Side, where the Kennedy's used to stay, you can get a room for anywhere from $295 to $2,400 per night. There are many fine hotels where one can stay for around $300 a night, including my favorite, The Pierre. You can stay at the famous and elegant Waldorf Astoria for less. If you do, check out the Ladies Room in the lobby. It is not to be missed. Bring a tip for the attendant. You can't even spend $600 a night there. In short, they were not traveling economy class on that trip. I only mention it because Mesirow describes these out-of-pocket expenses as "necessary" and "reasonable" and it's hard for me to match those words up with that kind of hotel bill. He wonders also about a pair
of unlinked taxi rides for Todd Zoha to/from SFO airport, an 11/09 day trip SLC to LAX for Eric Markin, and an 11/20
one-way ticket for Lyle Bauck from SLC to Charlotte. I guess one would need to cross check against the hourlies, and now that we have them both as text, we can easily do so.
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EXHIBIT E
EXHIBIT E
The SCO GROUP, INC., et al.,
Detail of Out-of-Pocket Expenses
September 14, 2007 through November 30, 2007
| Bauck, Lyle |
09/25/07 |
Airfare - roundtrip - MIA to SLC. |
$1,455.71 |
| Zoha, Todd |
09/25/07 |
Airfare - roundtrip - ORD to SLC. |
824.21 |
| Zoha, Todd |
10/02/07 |
Airfare - roundtrip - ORD to SLC. |
982.99 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
10/04/07 |
Airfare - one way - SLC to MIA. |
413.30 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
10/07/07 |
Airfare - roundtrip - MIA to SLC. |
1,363.60 |
| Markin, Eric |
10/14/07 |
Airfare - roundtrip - ORD to SLC. |
1,262.80 |
| McClellan, Christian |
10/15/07 |
Airfare - roundtrip - ORD to SLC. |
1,109.40 |
| Zoha, Todd |
10/16/07 |
Airfare - roundtrip - ORD to SLC. |
855.81 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
10/23/07 |
Airfare - oneway - SLC to MIA. |
760.08 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
10/28/07 |
Airfare - roundtrip - MIA to ORD. |
1,138.99 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
11/04/07 |
Airfare - roundtrip - MIA to SLC. |
1,623.29 |
| Markin, Eric |
11/04/07 |
Airfare - roundtrip - ORD to SLC. |
1,197.80 |
| Allson, Tom |
11/05/07 |
Airfare - roundtrip - ORD to PHL. |
1,140.77 |
| Fasel, Bill |
11/05/07 |
Airfare - roundtrip - ORD to PHL/LGA to ORD. |
554.54 |
| Markin, Eric |
11/09/07 |
Airfare - roundtrip - SLC to LAX. |
361.80 |
| Fasel, Bill |
11/12/07 |
Airfare - oneway - ORD to LGA. |
316.73 |
| Fasel, Bil |
11/12/07 |
Airfare - roundtrip - ORD to LGA. |
544.74 |
| Zoha, Todd |
11/12/07 |
Airfare - roundtrip - ORD to LGA. |
705.79 |
| Fasel, Bill |
11/16/07 |
Airfare - oneway - ORD to PHL. |
235.40 |
| Fasel, Bill |
11/16/07 |
Airfare - oneway - PHL to ORD. |
326.40 |
| Zoha, Todd |
11/16/07 |
Airfare - oneway - PHL to ORD. |
212.40 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
11/20/07 |
Airfare - one way - SLC to Charlotte. |
301.40 |
| - | - |
Airfare Subtotal |
$17,687.95 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
09/25/07 |
Ground Transportation - Taxi fare from home to Airport. |
$38.00 |
| Zoha, Todd |
09/25/07 |
Ground Transportation - Car service from office to ORD Airport. |
100.00 |
| Zoha, Todd |
09/25/07 |
Ground Transportation - Car service from SLC Airport to hotel. |
122.00 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
09/28/07 |
Ground Transportation - Taxi fare from Airport to home. |
38.00 |
| Zoha, Todd |
09/28/07 |
Ground Transportation - Taxi fare from ORD Airport to home. |
42.00 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
10/02/07 |
Ground Transportation - Gasoline expense for rental car. |
37.57 |
| Zoha, Todd |
10/02/07 |
Ground Transportation - Taxi fare from home to ORD Airport. |
46.05 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
10/04/07 |
Ground Transportation - Rental car, 9 days. |
745.99 |
| Zoha, Todd |
10/04/07 |
Ground Transportation - Taxi fare from SFO Airport. |
42.00 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
10/07/07 |
Ground Transportation - Taxi fare from home to Airport. |
40.00 |
| Zoha, Todd |
10/07/07 |
Ground Transportation - Taxi fare to SFO Airport. |
42.00 |
| Zoha, Todd |
10/10/07 |
Ground Transportation - Taxi fare from ORD Airport to home. |
41.00 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
10/14/07 |
Ground Transportation - Gasoline expense for rental car. |
36.09 |
| Markin, Eric |
10/14/07 |
Ground Transportation - Taxi fare from home to ORD Airport. |
44.00 |
| McClellan, Christian |
10/15/07 |
Ground Transportation - Taxi fare from home to ORD Airport. |
45.00 |
| Fasel, Bil |
10/16/07 |
Ground Transportation - Parking, 1 day. |
16.00 |
| McClellan, Christian |
10/16/07 |
Ground Transportation - Taxi fare from Airport to home. |
45.00 |
| Zoha, Todd |
10/16/07 |
Ground Transportation - Taxi fare from home to ORD Airport. |
40.00 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
10/19/07 |
Ground Transportation - Rental car, 2 weeks. |
683.61 |
| Zoha, Todd |
10/19/07 |
Ground Transportation - Taxi fare from ORD Airport to home. |
40.00 |
| Markin, Eric |
10/20/07 |
Ground Transportation - Gasoline expense for rental car. |
49.02 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
10/23/07 |
Ground Transportation - Taxi fare from Airport to home. |
38.00 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
10/23/07 |
Ground Transportation - Rental car, 8 days. |
963.01 |
| Markin, Eric |
10/23/07 |
Ground Transportation - Taxi fare from hotel to SLC Airport. |
21.12 |
| Markin, Eric |
10/23/07 |
Ground Transportation - Taxi fare from ORD Airport to home. |
40.00 |
EXHIBIT E
The SCO GROUP, INC., et al.,
Detail of Out-of-Pocket Expenses
September 14, 2007 through November 30, 2007
| Name |
Date |
Description |
Amount |
| Fasel, Bill |
10/24/07 |
Ground Transportation - Parking, 1 day. |
14.00 |
| Fasel, Bill |
10/25/07 |
Ground Transportation - Parking, 1 day. |
14.00 |
| Fasel, Bill |
10/26/07 |
Ground Transportation - Parking, 1 day. |
16.00 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
10/28/07 |
Ground Transportation - Taxi fare from home to Airport. |
40.00 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
10/28/07 |
Ground Transportation - Taxi fare from Airport to hotel. |
30.00 |
| Fasel, Bill |
10/30/07 |
Ground Transportation - Parking, 1 day. |
14.00 |
| Fasel, Bill |
10/31/07 |
Ground Transportation - Parking, 1 day. |
14.00 |
| Fasel, Bill |
11/01/07 |
Ground Transportation - Parking, 1 day. |
14.00 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
11/02/07 |
Ground Transportation - Taxi fare from office to Airport. |
43.00 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
11/02/07 |
Ground Transportation - Taxi fare from Airport to home. |
40.00 |
| Fasel, Bill |
11/02/07 |
Ground Transportation - Parking, 1 day. |
14.00 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
11/04/07 |
Ground Transportation - Taxi fare from home to Airport. |
40.00 |
| Markin, Eric |
11/04/07 |
Ground Transportation - Taxi fare from home to ORD Airport. |
40.00 |
| Allison, Tom |
11/05/07 |
Ground Transportation - Taxi fare from LGA Airport to hotel. |
35.00 |
| Fasel, Bill |
11/05/07 |
Ground Transportation - Parking, 1 day. |
16.00 |
| Allison, Tom |
11/06/07 |
Ground Transportation - Amtrak 1-way from NY to Delaware Courthouse. |
127.00 |
| Allison, Tom |
11/06/07 |
Ground Transportation - Amtrak 1-way from Delaware Courthouse to NY. |
228.34 |
| Fasel, Bill |
11/06/07 |
Ground Transportation - Taxi fare from hotel to SCO meeting. |
8.00 |
| Fasel, Bill |
11/06/07 |
Ground Transportation - Amtrak 1-way from NY to Delaware Courthouse. |
127.00 |
| Fasel, Bill |
11/06/07 |
Ground Transportation - Amtrak 1-way from Delaware Courthouse to NY. |
127.00 |
| Fasel, Bill |
11/06/07 |
Ground Transportation - Taxi fare from SCO meeting to hotel. |
7.00 |
| Allison, Tom |
11/08/07 |
Ground Transportation - Taxi fare from hotel to LGA Airport. |
33.00 |
| Fasel, Blil |
11/08/07 |
Ground Transportation - Car service from hotel to LGA Airport. |
50.00 |
| Fasel, Bill |
11/08/07 |
Ground Transportation - Parking, 4 days. |
78.00 |
| Fasel, Bill |
11/09/07 |
Ground Transportation - Taxi fare from office to ORD Airport. |
36.50 |
| Fasel, Bill |
11/09/07 |
Ground Transportation - Parking, 1 day. |
16.00 |
| Markin, Eric |
11/09/07 |
Ground Transportation - Rental car, 1 week. |
424.30 |
| Fasel, Bill |
11/12/07 |
Ground Transportation - Taxi fare from office to ORD Airport. |
45.00 |
| Fasel, Bill |
11/12/07 |
Ground Transportation - Taxi fare from LGA Airport to hotel. |
48.62 |
| Zoha, Todd |
11/12/07 |
Ground Transportation - Taxi fare from home to ORD Airport. |
43.00 |
| Fasel, Bill |
11/14/07 |
Ground Transportation - Taxi fare from hotel to LGA Airport. |
35.30 |
| Fasel, Bill |
11/14/07 |
Ground Transportation - Parking, 3 days. |
78.00 |
| Zoha, Todd |
11/14/07 |
Ground Transportation - Taxi fare from 60 Thompson to hotel. |
15.00 |
| Fasel, Bill |
11/15/07 |
Ground Transportation - Parking, 1 day. |
14.00 |
| Fasel, Bill |
11/16/07 |
Ground Transportation - Taxi fare from Delaware to PHL Airport. |
120.00 |
| Fasel, Bill |
11/16/07 |
Ground Transportation - Shuttle from Airport to Delaware. |
80.00 |
| Fasel, Bill |
11/16/07 |
Ground Transportation - Parking, 1 day. |
26.00 |
| Zoha, Todd |
11/16/07 |
Ground Transportation - Penn Station to Wilmington, Delaware. |
113.00 |
| Zoha, Todd |
11/16/07 |
Ground Transportation - Wilmington Amtrak Station to 919 N. Market Street. |
10.00 |
| Zoha, Todd |
11/16/07 |
Ground Transportation - Penn Station to hotel. |
10.00 |
| Fasel, Bill |
11/19/07 |
Ground Transportation - Parking, 1 day. |
14.00 |
| Fasel, Bill |
11/20/07 |
Ground Transportation - Parking, 1 day. |
14.00 |
| Markin, Eric |
11/20/07 |
Ground Transportation - Parking at hotel, 1 day. |
16.56 |
| Markin, Eric |
11/21/07 |
Ground Transportation - Rental car, 10 days. |
774.09 |
EXHIBIT E
The SCO GROUP, INC., et al.,
Detail of Out-of-Pocket Expenses
September 14, 2007 through November 30, 2007
| Name |
Date |
Description |
Amount |
| Markin, Eric |
11/21/07 |
Ground Transportation - Taxi fare from ORD Airport to home. |
43.25 |
| Fasel, Bill |
11/26/07 |
Ground Transportation - Parking, 1 day. |
14.00 |
| Fasel, Bill |
11/27/07 |
Ground Transportation - Parking, 1 day. |
14.00 |
| - | - |
Ground Transportation Subtotal |
$6,569.42 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
09/25/07 |
Lodging - Provo, UT, number of nights 9. |
$1,335.42 |
| Zoha, Todd |
09/25/07 |
Lodging - Provo, UT, number of nights 3. |
445.14 |
| Zoha, Todd |
10/02/07 |
Lodging - Provo, UT, number of nights 2. |
357.46 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
10/07/07 |
Lodging - Provo, UT, number of nights 13. |
2,122.28 |
| Zoha, Todd |
10/07/07 |
Lodging - Provo, UT, number of nights 3. |
536.19 |
| Markin, Eric |
10/14/07 |
Lodging - Provo, UT, number of nights 6. |
1,072.38 |
| McClellan, Christian |
10/15/07 |
Lodging - Salt Lake City, UT number of nights 1. |
178.73 |
| Zoha, Todd |
10/16/07 |
Lodging - Provo, UT, number of nights 3. |
536.19 |
| Markin, Eric |
10/20/07 |
Lodging - Park City, UT, number of nights 1. |
238.19 |
| Markin, Eric |
10/21/07 |
Lodging - Sundance, UT, number of nights 1. |
282.84 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
10/22/07 |
Lodging - Provo, UT, number of nights 1. |
105.95 |
| Markin, Eric |
10/22/07 |
Lodging - Provo, UT, number of nights 1. |
105.95 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
10/28/07 |
Lodging - Chicago, IL, number of nights 5 days. |
2,302.25 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
11/04/07 |
Lodging - Provo, UT, number of nights 4. |
713.71 |
| Markin, Eric |
11/04/07 |
Lodging - Provo, UT, number of nights 4. |
722.44 |
| Allison, Tom |
11/05/07 |
Lodging - New York, NY, number of nights 3. |
2,149.89 |
| Fasel, Bill |
11/05/07 |
Lodging - New York, NY, number of nights 3. |
1,410.59 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
11/08/07 |
Lodging - Provo, UT, number of nights 1. |
178.73 |
| Markin, Eric |
11/08/07 |
Lodging - Provo. UT, number of nights 1. |
178.73 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
11/11/07 |
Lodging - Provo, UT, number of nights 1. |
246.85 |
| Markin, Eric |
11/11/07 |
Lodging - Provo, UT, number of nights 1. |
246.85 |
| Fasel, Bill |
11/12/07 |
Lodging - New York, NY, number of nights 2. |
1,365.24 |
| Markin, Eric |
11/12/07 |
Lodging - Provo, UT, number of nights 4. |
658.71 |
| Zoha, Todd |
11/12/07 |
Lodging - Provo, UT, number of nights 2. |
1,195.17 |
| Markin, Eric |
11/16/07 |
Lodging - Park City, UT, number of nights 2. |
584.86 |
| Markin, Eric |
11/18/07 |
Lodging - Provo, UT, number of nights 2. |
357.46 |
| Markin, Eric |
11/20/07 |
Lodging - Salt Lake City, UT number of nights 1. |
246.81 |
| - | - |
Lodging Subtotal |
$19,875.01 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
09/25/07 |
Meals - Out of town dinner, 1 attendee. |
$36.16 |
| Zoha, Todd |
09/25/07 |
Meals - Out of town dinner, 1 attendee. |
18.00 |
| Zoha, Todd |
09/26/07 |
Meals - Out of town breakfast, 2 attendees. |
31.00 |
| Zoha, Todd |
09/26/07 |
Meals - Out of town dinner, 2 attendees. |
68.00 |
| Zoha, Todd |
09/27/07 |
Meals - Out of town dinner, 2 attendees. |
79.00 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
09/28/07 |
Meals - Out of town breakfast, 1 attendee. |
19.46 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
09/28/07 |
Meals - Out of town dinner, 1 attendee. |
41.89 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
09/29/07 |
Meals - Out of town breakfast, 1 attendee. |
12.87 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
09/29/07 |
Meals - Out of town dinner, 1 attendee. |
20.64 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
09/30/07 |
Meals - Out of town breakfast, 1 attendee. |
9.74 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
09/30/07 |
Meals - Out of town dinner, 1 attendee. |
38.72 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
10/01/07 |
Meals - Out of town breakfast, 1 attendee. |
20.87 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
10/01/07 |
Meals - Out of town dinner, 1 attendee. |
35.85 |
| Zoha, Todd |
10/02/07 |
Meals - Out of town dinner, 2 attendees. |
90.00 |
| Zoha, Todd |
10/03/07 |
Meals - Out of town dinner, 2 attendees. |
55.00 |
EXHIBIT E
The SCO GROUP, INC., et al.,
Detail of Out-of-Pocket Expenses
September 14,2007 through November 30, 2007
| Name |
Date |
Description |
Amount |
| Bauck, Lyle |
10/04/07 |
Meals - Out of town breakfast, 2 attendees. |
16.69 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
10/04/07 |
Meals - Out of town dinner, 2 attendees. |
48.63 |
| Zoha, Todd |
10/07/07 |
Meals - Out of town dinner, 1 attendee. |
22.29 |
| Zoha, Todd |
10/08/07 |
Meals - Out of town dinner, 2 attendees. |
53.55 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
10/09/07 |
Meals - Out of town dinner, 2 attendees. |
91.51 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
10/10/07 |
Meals - Out of town breakfast, 1 attendee. |
15.06 |
| Markin, Eric |
10/10/07 |
Meals - Overtime dinner, 1 attendee. |
29.00 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
10/11/07 |
Meals - Out of town breakast, 2 attendees. |
15.21 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
10/12/07 |
Meals - Out of town dinner, 1 attendee. |
40.09 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
10/14/07 |
Meals - Out of town breakfast, 1 attendee. |
13.20 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
10/14/07 |
Meals - Out of town dinner, 2 attendees. |
96.46 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
10/15/07 |
Meals - Out of town breakfast, 1 attendee. |
11.32 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
10/15/07 |
Meals - Out of town dinner, 3 attendees. |
158.73 |
| Markin, Eric |
10/15/07 |
Meals - Out of town breakfast, 1 attendee. |
19.96 |
| McClellan, Christian |
10/15/07 |
Meals - Out of town breakfast, 1 attendee. |
13.97 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
10/16/07 |
Meals - Out of town breakfast, 1 attendee. |
15.06 |
| Zoha, Todd |
10/16/07 |
Meals - Out of town dinner, 3 attendees. |
128.00 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
10/17/07 |
Meals - Out of town breakfast, 2 attendees. |
13.22 |
| Zoha, Todd |
10/17/07 |
Meals - Out of town dinner, 3 attendees. |
145.00 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
10/18/07 |
Meals - Out of town breakfast, 1 attendee. |
15.06 |
| Markin, Eric |
10/18/07 |
Meals - Out of town breakfast, 2 attendees. |
10.13 |
| Zoha, Todd |
10/18/07 |
Meals - Out of town dinner, 3 attendees. |
145.08 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
10/19/07 |
Meals - Out of town dinner, 2 attendees. |
136.49 |
| Markin, Eric |
10/19/07 |
Meals - Out of town breakfast, 2 attendees. |
14.93 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
10/20/07 |
Meals - Out of town breakfast, 2 attendees. |
22.65 |
| Markin, Eric |
10/20/07 |
Meals - Out of town dinner, 2 attendees. |
150.86 |
| Markin. Eric |
10/21/07 |
Meals - Out of town breakfast, 2 attendees. |
24.00 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
10/22/07 |
Meals - Out of town dinner, 1 attendee. |
12.62 |
| Markin, Eric |
10/22/07 |
Meals - Out of town breakfast, 2 attendees. |
13.60 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
10/23/07 |
Meals - Out of town breakfast, 1 attendee. |
17.10 |
| Fasel, Bill |
10/27/07 |
Meals - Out of town dinner, 2 attendees. |
163.22 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
10/28/07 |
Meals - Out of town breakfast, 1 attendee. |
3.19 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
10/28/07 |
Meals - Out of town dinner, i attendee. |
45.53 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
10/29/07 |
Meals - Out of town breakfast, 1 attendee. |
6.61 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
10/29/07 |
Meals - Out of town dinner, 1 attendee. |
47.59 |
| Markin, Eric |
10/29/07 |
Meals - Out of town dinner, 1 attendee. |
24.70 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
10/30/07 |
Meals - Out of town breakfast, 1 attendee. |
10.70 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
10/30/07 |
Meals - Out of town dinner, 2 attendees. |
90.52 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
10/31/07 |
Meals - Out of town breakfast, 1 attendee. |
17.47 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
10/31/07 |
Meals - Out of town dinner, 2 attendees. |
107.65 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
11/01/07 |
Meals - Out of town breakfast, 1 attendee. |
21.99 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
11/01/07 |
Meals - Out of town dinner, 2 attendees. |
121.59 |
| Markin, Eric |
11/04/07 |
Meals - Out of town dinner, 2 attendees. |
150.14 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
11/05/07 |
Meals - Out of town dinner, 2 attendees. |
17.50 |
| Fasel, Bill |
11/05/07 |
Meals - Out of town dinner, 1 attendee. |
13.00 |
| Markin, Eric |
11/05/07 |
Meals - Out of town breakfast, 2 attendees. |
37.27 |
| Markin, Eric |
11/06/07 |
Meals - Out of town dinner, 2 attendees. |
35.67 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
11/07/07 |
Meals - Out of town dinner, 2 attendees. |
76.78 |
| Fasel, Bill |
11/07/07 |
Meals - Out of town breakfast, 1 attendee. |
8.13 |
EXHIBIT E
The SCO GROUP, INC., et al.,
Detail of Out-of-Pocket Expenses
September 14, 2007 through November 30, 2007
| Name |
Date |
Description |
Amount |
| Markin, Eric |
11/08/07 |
Meals - Out of town dinner, 2 attendees. |
97.32 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
11/09/07 |
Meals - Out of town breakfast, 2 attendees. |
15.06 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
11/09/07 |
Meals - Out of town dinner, 1 attendee. |
41.43 |
| Markin, Eric |
11/09/07 |
Meals - Out of town dinner, 1 attendee. |
75.27 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
11/11/07 |
Meals - Out of town dinner, 2 attendees. |
58.53 |
| Bauck. Lyle |
11/12/07 |
Meals - Out of town breakfast, 1 attendee. |
8.71 |
| Markin, Eric |
11/12/07 |
Meals - Out of town breakfast, 1 attendee. |
9.50 |
| Markin, Eric |
11/12/07 |
Meals - Out of town dinner, 1 attendee. |
22.17 |
| Markin, Eric |
11/13/07 |
Meals - Out of town breakfast, 1 attendee. |
17.45 |
| Markin, Eric |
11/13/07 |
Meals - Out of town dinner, 2 attendees. |
25.81 |
| Fasel, Bill |
11/14/07 |
Meals - Out of town dinner, 2 attendees. |
210.47 |
| Markin, Eric |
11/14/07 |
Meals - Out of town breakfast, 2 attendees. |
13.33 |
| Fasel, Bill |
11/15/07 |
Meals - Out of town dinner, 2 attendees. |
58.58 |
| Markin, Eric |
11/15/07 |
Meals - Out of town dinner, 2 attendees. |
46.92 |
| Zoha, Todd |
11/16/07 |
Meals - Out of town dinner, 1 attendee. |
37.04 |
| Markin, Eric |
11/17/07 |
Meals - Out of town breakfast, 2 attendees. |
35.00 |
| Markin, Eric |
11/18/07 |
Meals - Out of town breakfast, 1 attendee. |
30.10 |
| Markin, Eric |
11/18/07 |
Meals - Out of town dinner, 1 attendee. |
32.57 |
| Markin, Eric |
11/19/07 |
Meals - Out of town breakfast, 2 attendees. |
12.47 |
| Markin, Eric |
11/19/07 |
Meals - Out of town dinner, 2 attendees. |
45.06 |
| Markin, Eric |
11/20/07 |
Meals - Out of town breakfast, 2 attendees. |
12.91 |
| Markin, Eric |
11/20/07 |
Meals - Out of town dinner, 2 attendees. |
137.12 |
| Markin, Eric |
11/21/07 |
Meals - Out of town breakfast, 1 attendee. |
22.74 |
| Fasel, Bill |
11/27/07 |
Meals - Out of town dinner, 2 attendees. |
30.24 |
| - | - |
Meals Subtotal |
$4,181.72 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
10/04/07 |
Office supplies. |
$58.57 |
| Markin, Eric |
10/16/07 |
Office supplies. |
85.51 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
11/10/07 |
Office supplies. |
3.74 |
| - | - |
Miscellaneous - Office Supplies Subtotal |
$147.82 |
| Fasel, Bill |
10/22/07 |
Printing Charges at hotel (MA) |
$6.24 |
| Fasel, Bill |
11/27/07 |
Copies York Documents SCO |
56.03 |
| - | - |
Miscellaneous - Photocopies Subtotal |
$62.27 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
09/28/07 |
Internet usage at hotel. |
$9.95 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
10/04/07 |
Internet usage at hotel. |
9.95 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
10/08/07 |
Internet usage at hotel. |
9.95 |
| Bauck, Lyle |
10/10/07 |
Internet usage at hotel. |
9.95 |
| Markin, Eric |
10/14/07 |
Internet usage at hotel. |
9.95 |
| McClellan, Christian |
10/15/07 |
Internet usage at hotel. |
9.95 |
| McClellan, Christian |
10/16/07 |
Internet usage at airport. |
7.95 |
| Zoha, Todd |
10/16/07 |
Internet usage at hotel. |
9.95 |
| Fasel, Bill |
10/19/07 |
Internet usage at hotel. |
10.45 |
| Fasel, Bill |
10/20/07 |
Internet usage at hotel. |
10.45 |
| Fasel, Bill |
10/21/07 |
Internet usage at hotel. |
10.45 |
| Fasel, Bill |
10/22/07 |
Internet usage at hotel. |
10.45 |
| Fasel, Bill |
11/07/07 |
Internet usage at hotel. |
10.77 |
| Markin, Eric |
11/11/07 |
Internet usage at hotel. |
9.95 |
EXHIBIT E
The SCO GROUP, INC., et al.,
Detail of Out-of-Pocket Expenses
September 14, 2007 through November 30, 2007
| Name |
Date |
Description |
Amount |
| Markin, Eric |
11/12/07 |
Internet usage at hotel. |
9.95 |
| Markin, Eric |
11/15/07 |
Internet usage at hotel. |
9.95 |
| Zoha, Todd |
11/16/07 |
Internet usage at airport. |
7.95 |
| Markin, Eric |
11/19/07 |
Internet usage at hotel. |
9.95 |
| - | - |
Telephone/Internet Subtotal |
$177.92 |
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Total Out of Pocket Expenses |
$48,702.11 |
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| Authored by: complex_number on Tuesday, December 25 2007 @ 01:27 AM EST |
| Come Here [ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: softbear on Tuesday, December 25 2007 @ 01:28 AM EST |
If these expenses were limited to the IRS guidelines,
they
would amount to
a mere fraction of what we see here.
No company I have ever worked for
would have paid most
of
these ... why should the creditors?
Merry
Christmas to all!
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IANAL, etc.
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| Authored by: complex_number on Tuesday, December 25 2007 @ 01:31 AM EST |
Come Here - You know he rules...
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| Authored by: complex_number on Tuesday, December 25 2007 @ 01:32 AM EST |
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| Authored by: complex_number on Tuesday, December 25 2007 @ 01:46 AM EST |
I see a billing for over $2100 for three nights in a NY Hotel. If I ever
presented a bill like that I would be shown the door without "hesitation,
deviation or repetition"(UK Radio Joke)
But I guess the $9.95 for internet usage is a bargain. I wonder why 2.5 or 3G
data access is not included in their corporate mobile phone contracts. I get it
in mine for $20.00 a month.
I also wonder why the cost for Amtrak from NY to Wilmington is twice that for
coming back? The same goes for Flight tickets. I'm sure there are reasonable
explanations but they do seem rather excessive.
$50 for a car service airport to hotel? Gold plated limo?
At costs like this, it is often cheaper to rent a car at the airport, drive it
downtown and hand it back. I used to do this in Boston before they got the
public transport sorted out.
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, December 25 2007 @ 01:47 AM EST |
Frequently when flying between certain destinations it is cheaper to buy a round
trip fare and toss the return leg than to buy a one way.
You also raise a higher TSA profile on a one way fare, and that may make some
frequent travelers use the round trip if it is a push rather than a oneway. Of
course one would have to go "low bid" here, to be ethical, if $300 to
$500 and more / hour is in that class too. Yeah right.
I would have to look at the fare structures in place for the destinations, know
how the tickets were booked, what is customary and acceptable practice (Cheap
seats, or call AA.com direct) to get from one place to another.
Another thing missing from the line item itemization to decipher this is what
the return for the tickets were and the actual dates of travel. One might infer
that the oneways were purchased and used the same day or within 1 day. Maybe
someone can get that by matching Schedule D and E to see who was where.
Without looking at Schedule D, one could figure that the lyle B one way which is
from SLC to MIA (is this LB's home) might be because the return leg purchased on
9/25 was not changable for a reasonable amount, and LB had to return to MIA for
some business. Hopefully LB then later booked an appropriate ticket which would
eventually use the SLC-MIA leg. At the prices online today which is 12/24 I
picked travel 12/25 (next day) with return 1/2 to shadow the 9/25 with return
10/2 and got a $746 fare. This is a bad time to do this, since 12/25 is a very
special fare day (Christmas) and usually has low prices. However the $1400
sounds like a buy now travel tomorrow business class or first class for an
ordinary day.
I would expect an explanation of the itinerary where there are questions, not
just ticket purchase dates and prices. At least that is how my expense reports
work.
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, December 25 2007 @ 01:50 AM EST |
When I was on the road, the hotels always, always, always included internet
access. They never billed separately. Billing separately would have been a
deal-breaker. Has the hotel industry changed that much in two years?
?!?!?
Can we get a list of URLs visited? Hm?[ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: tce on Tuesday, December 25 2007 @ 02:51 AM EST |
$210 is going to stick out a bit.
Fasel, Bill 11/14/07
Meals - Out of town dinner, 2 attendees. 210.47
What is the expense policy for alcohol at this firm?
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, December 25 2007 @ 06:07 AM EST |
So everytime someone at SCO needs to buy a paperclip they have to ask the
court for permission if it is a reasonable expense. If on the other hand SCO
decide to sell themselves without leave of the court and Mesirow helps out,
they can table 1/2 million dollars in expenses including $200 meals out for
two, and since it has already been spent on the company's behalf they have
to pay up. Where's the justice in that?[ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: maroberts on Tuesday, December 25 2007 @ 06:08 AM EST |
| Don't you guys take the day off? :-) [ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: SilverWave on Tuesday, December 25 2007 @ 06:48 AM EST |
Looks like you had a busy and financially successful year guys...
I hope you like the intense interest your work has provoked here at groklaw.
Everyone here is really keen to help you ensure that no mistakes were made and
that all the bills are necessary and reasonable.
Happy Xmas.
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Software Patents give Hardware Patents a bad name.
If the Pharmaceutical industry does not want to be included in the backlash...
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| Authored by: SilverWave on Tuesday, December 25 2007 @ 06:51 AM EST |
Seasons greeting PJ and all groklaw'rs.
:)
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Software Patents give Hardware Patents a bad name.
If the Pharmaceutical industry does not want to be included in the backlash...
arrange for a separation.[ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: JamesK on Tuesday, December 25 2007 @ 08:43 AM EST |
for many of us. ;-)
"If you do, check out the Ladies Room in the lobby."
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May the source be with you.
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, December 25 2007 @ 09:19 AM EST |
Allison, Tom 11/06/07 Ground Transportation - Amtrak 1-way from NY to Delaware
Courthouse. 127.00
Allison, Tom 11/06/07 Ground Transportation - Amtrak 1-way from Delaware
Courthouse to NY. 228.34
Cab fares higher in Delaware?[ Reply to This | # ]
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- Oh Tom, Reasonable Expenses? - Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, December 25 2007 @ 10:44 AM EST
- Oh Tom, Reasonable Expenses? - Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, December 25 2007 @ 11:29 AM EST
- Oh Tom, Reasonable Expenses? - Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, December 25 2007 @ 01:49 PM EST
- Oh Tom, Reasonable Expenses? - Authored by: tcomeau on Tuesday, December 25 2007 @ 05:45 PM EST
- Oh Tom, Reasonable Expenses? - Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, December 25 2007 @ 07:37 PM EST
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, December 25 2007 @ 09:21 AM EST |
Well, if the expenses are disallowed, they can be appealed,
thus creating more delay and distraction in the proceedings.
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, December 25 2007 @ 10:38 AM EST |
I wonder what the $500 a day for a hotel includes? Extra "blankets"!?
Wow, didn't know lawyers were Royalty.
hahaha
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| Authored by: FrankH on Tuesday, December 25 2007 @ 11:57 AM EST |
We seem to be concentrating on $700 for an hotel room for the night. Shouldn't
the question be "Why did you continue to rack up expenses when you knew the
company was bankrupt?"
$half a million is way over the top but even $100 is over the top. You're a
reasonable person, if I told you I was bankrupt and probably wouldn't be able to
repay you would you give me a loan or would you want me to pay up front?
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| Authored by: Grog6 on Tuesday, December 25 2007 @ 12:01 PM EST |
Here's hoping that Darl and Co. have a Grinch moment, and actually feel bad for
what they've done.
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ITYJW? ITM?[ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, December 25 2007 @ 12:25 PM EST |
I'm always paranoid about my expenses and ALWAYS end up out-of-pocket, but I'm
glad they not under such scrutiny as these ;-)[ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: John Hasler on Tuesday, December 25 2007 @ 01:49 PM EST |
> Our volunteer who did the text for us mentions some details
> that seemed odd to him, namely some one-way tickets
> followed by round trip tickets a few days later between the
> same destinations, raising questions about whether they
> were both for the same trip or exactly how the employee got
> home or what happened to the return part of the ticket.
Perhaps some trips involved work for more than one client at different
locations.
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| Authored by: Bill The Cat on Tuesday, December 25 2007 @ 02:48 PM EST |
And, once again, Novell's stocking is empty. Mr. Santa Court has again
rewarding those who have been naughty and not those who have been nice.
But, PJ, Groklaw and all the fine contributors and volunteers have provided us
all another year of fine reading, commentary and dialog. Thanks!!!
Have a Happy Holiday Season celebrating whatever it is you do celebrate and have
a wonderful New Year -- hopefully one where this saga will finally end.
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, December 25 2007 @ 03:19 PM EST |
What I don't get is how a respected and experienced law firm like Morris and
Foerster couldn't see this bill coming. And what will they do now? I guess
they could object and try to depose Bauck and Zoha - if they can move after
all this food - and ask them under oath if they were not instructed to
"spend big".[ Reply to This | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, December 25 2007 @ 08:15 PM EST |
Background: I'm a consultant who flies, on average, 80-120 round trips/yr. I
know more than I should have to about how to deal with airlines, from pricing to
dealing with their operational "challenges". I manage projects, which
means I go all over the place with little warning, and frequently have to change
plans to put out fires and other related fun.
Most airlines try to "get" business travelers by pricing any round
trip not including a Saturday night stay higher, as travelers buying a weekend
stay are generally leisure travelers who won't be able to manage a $1200 fully
refundable coach fare.
To get around this, if you can reasonably predict your travel, you might be able
to save on airfares by doing two things. Let's assume you live in Salt Lake City
(SLC) and are flying into Philadelphia (PHL) because it's just 25 min or so from
downtown Wilmington. You're going to be making this commute Sunday night -
Thursday night for 4 weeks. Only Delta flies this route nonstop, which is strike
one for getting a cheaper fare - no competition that doesn't require a
connection. To save money, I can try to do two things:
1) Because I know my schedule, I buy non-refundable tickets as far out as
possible. If my schedule changes, I need to pay a change fee and any fare
difference, but this is rarely more than the cost of the fully refundable fare.
If I have to cancel a trip, I don't get the money back, but I can apply it to a
different fare on the same airline in the future, usually up to a year.
2) Here's the trickier one that the airlines really don't like. To build in a
Saturday night stay at my destination, buy a one-way fare there on my first
week, then book round trips from my destination to home until the last week of
the project, when I book a one-way home. For example:
Week 1: SLC-PHL one-way, Sun night
End of Week 1: PHL-SLC round trip, out Thu night, back Sun night. Repeat until
last week of project.
Last week of project: PHL-SLC one-way, Thu night. (Note that you may save on
another round trip and just be a no-show for the return SLC-PHL leg.)
As I said, the airlines really don't like this and might try to make life harder
for corporate travel managers by decreasing the discounts they offer the next
time the contract's up for renegotiation. My firm's official policy is to do #1
above (non-refundable tickets) but not #2 for this reason, though sometimes our
clients require #2. When this happens, we have to document it for the expense
department.
I haven't gone through all the expenses to try to map the one ways to see if
they fit into #2 above, but this is one common reason they might, the other
being that they don't know where they're headed next until after they arrive.
As to the size of some of the airfares, senior folks are often entitled as a job
perk to buy first class fares (I am on trips >1500 miles for instance,
business class to Europe and first to Asia). However, depending upon how long
before departure some of the tickets were bought, it's not impossible to get a
$1400 last minute coach fare. The irony is also that unless you have frequent
flyer status on the airline, that high fare might sit you in a middle seat in
the far back of the plane as other seats will already be assigned on a full
flight.
Honestly, as someone who travels a lot and manages teams who do the same
(meaning I often bill my clients for these and deal with any questions regarding
their hours or expenses), I see little that appears out of line. That said, if
these folks were working for me, I'd have these comments:
1) Fasel's 11/16/07 Taxi fare from Delaware to PHL Airport - $120. I do this
route very frequently, living in the area, and $80-90 tops would be more
reasonable. He either got taken to the cleaners, took a limo service, or padded
the amount. The second is most likely.
2) Several of the hotel expenses are higher than they probably needed to be as
has been discussed here already, so I won't belabor the point. Most, however,
are very reasonable.
3) The meals are actually lower than I'd expect.
Overall, business travel is expensive, but not relative to the hours incurred
for consultants and lawyers. You'd have to look at the Mesirow engagement
contract to determine whether they should be billing all of this (for instance,
my firm eats the difference between the coach and first fares on domestic
itineraries for those of us entitled to buy first) but I expect this contract
allows for it. While we can debate whether bankruptcy work should require IRS
guidelines for travel expenses and meal per diems, the fact is that today, it
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