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Week 2, Day 10 of SCO v. Novell - Chris Stone, O'Gara, Maciaszek, Nagle - Updated 2Xs
Saturday, March 20 2010 @ 09:30 AM EDT

Friday at the jury trial of SCO v. Novell, Chris Stone testified, and despite valiant efforts by SCO's Stuart Singer to make the phone call with Maureen O'Gara seem somehow scandalous, he handled himself professionally and apparently made her allegations look inaccurate at best. He testified that he didn't tell her Novell was issuing a press release. She already knew. As for the call, he says he mostly listened.

The big news is that he says he's a venture capitalist now, and he was recently approached by none other than Darl McBride, contacting him about investing in his startup, and McBride allegedly told Stone he wouldn't have to worry about "that O'Gara business". Can you imagine the gall? Mr. Stone was surprised, naturally. And then her deposition was played, with the jury giggling, and then John Maciaszek testified, and then Andrew Nagle was on the stand to talk about copyright notices in UnixWare. He testified that Novell changed the copyright notices to say Santa Cruz after the APA. When Novell puts on its case, I expect they'll demonstrate that at a minimum, they must have missed some then. But I don't really think UnixWare is any major issue to Novell. Nagle also admitted that the phrase "intellectual property" can also mean source code. (It'd be hard to deny that, since one of the press releases about SCOsource used the phrase that way:"The creation of SCOsource, a division of SCO that will expand the licensing of the company's core intellectual property, including the core UNIX source code.") Michael Jacobs got a number of answers on the record that Nagle probably doesn't know will matter when Novell begins its case next week, but I noticed foreshadowing.

Here, first, are the minutes for Thursday and Friday:

03/18/2010 - 813 - Minute Entry for proceedings held before Judge Ted Stewart: Jury Trial held on 3/18/2010. Trial continues. Testimony heard, exhibits admitted. Trial will continue tomorrow morning at 8;30 a.m. Attorney for Plaintiff: Stuart Singer, Edward Normand, Brent Hatch, Attorney for Defendant Sterling Brennan, Eric Acker, Michael Jacobs. Court Reporter: E. Young, L. Robinson, Patti Walker. (slm) (Entered: 03/18/2010)

03/19/2010 - 814 - Minute Entry for proceedings held before Judge Ted Stewart: Jury Trial held on 3/19/2010. Out of the hearing of the jury, trial issues are discussed and resolved. Testimony heard, exhibits admitted. The jury is again instructed on proper behavior and released for the weekend. Trial will continue Monday morning, 3/22/10, at 8:30 a.m. Attorney for Plaintiff: Stuart Singer, Edward Normand, Brent Hatch, Attorney for Defendant Sterling Brennan, Eric Acker, Michael Jacobs. Court Reporter: L. Robinson, Becky Janke, Patti Walker. (slm) (Entered: 03/19/2010)

We'll start with cpeterson's report of the day, which he filed late last night:
Mr. Jacobs came into the courtroom, and greeted Mr. Singer and Mr. Hatch. In response to the obligatory "How are you", it turns out that Mr. Singer is coming down with a cold, and Mr. Hatch feels like he's got the flu.

While commiserating, Mr. Jacobs related having recently read a transcript from a case in Boston where, in the transcript, counsel keeps saying "Your Honor, I'm feeling nauseous..."

They all had a good laugh over that.

We got started with the usual pow-wow before the jury came in.

First issue up was the clock. Both sides are tracking; the numbers are close enough that the parties aren't worried that it will be an issue. The numbers at the start of the day, by Novell's reckoning: 14hrs40min Novell, 15hrs04min SCO. SCO's tracking comes out to 14hrs37min Novell, 15hrs38min SCO. (As I look at that, I'm thinking "That can't be right"; but that's what my notes say.) Anyway, the sides aren't so far apart on tracking or usage that they are concerned.

Then there was some exhibit items concerning the Maureen O'Gara material. Some disagreement over the email chain containing the "war pay" comment. Since it was being used to show a relationship between O'Gara and Stowell, and that relationship was already demonstrated elsewhere, this exhibit was ruled out. Then the "send a jab PJ's way" items - somehow were missed. They are ruled in, over SCO's objections.

Update: This is discussing the hard-copy exhibits that will go to the jury. These portions were not removed from the video deposition, and so the jury got to see/hear the discussion about "war pay", but they won't have the hard copy.

There seems to have been a number of "forgotten" items in the past few days. Some are minor; some appear to be big. Yesterday, there was a "missed" item that Novell wanted to bring into evidence, and they weren't able to: ALL of SCO's 8-K reports.

Chris Stone was today's first witness, called as an adverse witness by SCO. His testimony didn't take very long, really. Stuart Singer made a valiant effort to present this as dramatic revelations, but Mr. Stone was very straightforward and not in the least embarrassed about the answers he gave to the questions.

Mr. Stone was questioned about his speech at the Open Source Business Conference; about the press releases, and about his relationship with Maureen O'Gara.

Q: "Isn't it true you gave Ms. O'Gara your cell phone number?"

A: "Unfortunately, a lot of people have my cell phone number."

Q: "Isn't it true you gave her your home phone number?"

A: "No."

Q: "Isn't it true you spoke extensively with her on the evening of May 27, the day before the press release?"

A: "I would prefer to say I 'listened'."

(This drew laughter from the jury, and I think it became very important later on.)

Mr. Stone testified that he hadn't told Maureen that Novell was going to be issuing a press release, but that she already knew. He indicated that she had a lot of information, and that was a concern, since it wasn't clear where she was getting it from.

Anyway, almost no surprises from Chris Stone. He was forthright and upfront with all of his answers. The jury seemed to be somewhat confused, as Singer appeared to be repeatedly trying to draw out something dramatic, and Stone gave simple, direct answers. No traction.

Almost no surprises. In the cross examination, the final item was about what he's been doing since leaving Novell. It seems he's now an investor and venture capitalist. And apparently, he has recently been contacted by someone who is trying to create a startup firm here in the Salt Lake City area - none other than Darl McBride, who also reassured Mr. Stone that "he wouldn't have to worry about that O'Gara business."

He said he was surprised. If I could put his emphasis on that word, it would burn into your monitor's screen in about 5 seconds.

Next up was the O'Gara video deposition. It was, if I may say, uninspiring. There were long pauses after almost every question. Not defiant, nor deep-in-thought - I kept expecting the questioner (who I think was Mr. Jacobs) to wake her up and repeat the question. Some of her responses actually drew giggles from the jury. I think the characterizations of her that Mr. Stone expressed were only reinforced by her conduct on the video deposition.

It's getting very late; I'll cut this off here. Tomorrow (later) I'll try to put together something covering the testimony of John Maciaszek and Andrew Nagle. After their testimony (actually, during the latter part of Nagle's) Chris came in so you'll have a better look at things.

And here's Chris's report, beginning at around 11:30 AM:
Other matters kept me from getting to the courthouse until quite late in the day, around 11:30am.

My report starts during the examination of Mr. Andrew Nagle by SCO's Edward Normand.

I understand that by not reporting the entire testimony of Mr. Nagle I am leaving part of both Novell and SCO's presentation untold. This is unfair to the parties but entirely unintentional, I can only report what I can. I believe for our purposes a partial report is better than no report at all. As always, the transcripts are the official source. [PJ: Plus cpeterson will be covering this later.]

Mr. Normand asks Mr. Nagle 'How does this Unix System V release 4.2 compare with the first version of UnixWare?' Mr. Nagle answers, There were a few minor fixes and enhancements added to make UnixWare.

Mr. Normand shows the CD used in prior days and asks Mr. Nagle to explain to the jury what it is. He answers that it's UnixWare release 2.1 (and it's entered as physical exhibit 752).

He asks further, do the files contained on that disc contain Santa Cruz copyright notices?

Nagle: I know UnixWare 2.1 contains the notices.

When asked how he knows, he answers, Because they were added in November 1995 by Novell in the process I'd described earlier.

Mr. Normand refers to exhibit 'A' and exhibit 'B,' exhibits to the redacted trial exhibit 655. (They are photographs of a computer screen) Mr. Normand asks Mr. Nagle to describe the exhibit 'A' screenshot. Mr. Nagle says that it shows the opening page of the online command reference manual for UnixWare 2.1. Mr. Normand asks, It shows the copyright registration for Santa Cruz? Yes, added by Novell engineers in November 1995.

Mr. Normand shows exhibit 'B' and asks, If I asked the same questions would you give the same answers? Yes. He asks, 'you approved these changes? Yes, I did.

Mr. Normand shows exhibit 'C' from trial exhibit 655 and asks, Do you recognize this screenshot?

Nagle: Yes.

Q: And what does it show?

Nagle: It shows the output of "uname" on the command prompt.

Mr. Normand asks further about it and Mr. Nagle explains that "uname" tells all the important information about the system, that this is the output of the "uname -X" command. Mr. Normand asks what it shows. Mr. Nagle reports it's identifying the system as Unix System V release 4.2 MP because UnixWare 2.1 is based on 4.2 MP.

[ Update: PJ: I believe these are the screenshots [PDF] that Mr. Nagle is referring to. The first two are books, manuals. The last, the uname -X shows no copyright ownership at all. So this is no way shows the copyright ownership, and if this is the best SCO could come up with, I think it's about on the level of Microsoft's demo in the DOJ v. MS trial, meaning not exactly straight-arrow. If SCO thought it owned the copyrights, why not show the copyright info, and not on books but on the code?]

Mr. Normand says, You mentioned RCS. He then asks something to the effect of, Can someone modify the past RCS entries to alter what they say and Mr. Nagle indicates that someone of sufficient skill and password can change anything on the computer.

Mr. Normand asks, To the best of your knowledge, has the copyright registration changes been changed since 1995? No.

Judge Stewart calls a break. After the jury leaves, Mr. Singer brings up that Novell would like to amend their pleading in regard to claims to Unix and Unixware. He states that SCO opposes this. Mr. Jacobs states that in the intervening 6 sears since the pleading, and with the sharpening of the case and additional information, Novell believes it will be confusing to the jury not to change it.

He states that Novell's position has always been that they claim Unix, not Unixware. Mr. Singer says that this was a clear admission by Novell that they slandered title to Unix *and* Unixware. (I'm only presuming this is relation to the APA where the earliest/first UnixWare seemingly remained Novell's and all subsequent UnixWare releases belonged to Santa Cruz. I'm guessing the presumed confusion Novell refers to is what the definition of 'UnixWare' is. Generally in the case, and colloquially, Unix referred to Novell's product and UnixWare referred to Santa Cruz's.)

Judge Stewart said he will give his decision after the break.... Following the break Mr. Singer tells Judge Stewart that the agreement states, Unix and Unixware "at the time of APA" and he is willing to consent to that. Judge Stewart states he will not allow Novell's request (to modify pleading).

Mr. Normand says they have another issue, the deposition objections to Mr. Ryan Tibbitt's testimony. He says that the two parties are not in agreement on the resolution of the objections. (It appears that despite Mr. Tibbits sitting right at counsel's table, his deposition testimony will be used.) Mr. Normand, or perhaps Mr. Brennan, ask how it should be handled, either after court, now, or by objections at the point of the deposition playing. Judge Stewart says he will hear it now.

Mr. Brennan refers to his April 2007 deposition lines 10-18. He said when Mr. Tibbitts was questioned regarding contacts with SCO licensees regarding Questar (Questar Gas is the local Utah natural gas utility which took a SCOsource license which, incidentally, caused me to indirectly pay SCO via my utility bill.), Novell asked Mr. Tibbitts if SCO contends the damages would have been larger had Novell not slandered title? The witness was not allowed to answer based on "work product." Novell never found basis for this. Mr. Normand replies that Mr. Tibbitts is not testifying as a damages expert. That he's not being used for amount of damages or even if there were damages. He will be discussing the nature of discussions with customers.

Mr. Brennan says that the discussions include Questar and the DOD. He says that the DOD line of questions bring Novell's argument into better view. He reads the questions and responses. Novell contends that discussing these customers implies that SCO believes they've been harmed in relation to them but did not allow Novell to cross-examine their witness on them, that every time they asked, the witnesses attorney directed Mr. Tibbitts not to answer.

Judge Stewart originally seemed to contemplate not allowing any testimony with regards to these two specific customers but then ruled (I believe) that the questions from the deposition may be used.

Mr. Brennan said the next area of objections Novell has to the deposition testimony is (something regarding potential customers). Mr. Normand states that Mr. Tibbitts will not answer questions today regarding existing customers. Mr. Brennan indicates that resolves his objection. Please note that I might have reversed the potential and existing customers issue (I suspect some double negatives might have confused my notes).

Mr. Brennan says the third type of objections relates to an item of correspondence SCO sent to Novell, a letter dated October 9th from Ryan Tibbitts to Joseph LaSala. He jumps forward to the question "...remind you, Novell sold for $150 million. How did you come to that figure?" There is an objection by his counsel of "work product." He says that SCO had the same objections regarding several other letters on the same basis. Mr. Normand stated that exhibit 110 is the only one to be used. And that he will not use the $150 million line, he will use other parts. This resolved it, provided there are the redactions.

Judge Stewart turned to Mr. Nagle and said, I hope this makes you happy you're an engineer and not an attorney. Which drew laughter from the court.

The jury returned and Novell's Michael Jacobs cross examined, asking Mr. Nagle, You discussed with Mr. Normand your employment history and roles. One of your roles with SCO was regarding SCOsource. Mr. Normand objected, not subject of his direct, and stay territory. Mr. Jacobs responded that he will not venture into stay territory but that Mr. Normand asked on direct about roles, and this was one of his roles. Mr. Normand asked for a sidebar.

On return from sidebar, Judge Stewart told Mr. Jacobs, "I will hold you to the five minutes though."

Mr. Jacobs asked Mr. Nagle, You were SCO's representative to the OpenLinux consortium?

Nagle: Yes, 2001 to 2002.

Q: Can you describe the OpenLinux consortium?

Mr. Nagle does so.

Mr. Jacobs refers to exhibit I11, SCO's press release dated November 19, 2002. It reports that SCO is part of the OpenLinux consortium, releasing their own version of Linux as part of goal. It mentions SCO Linux 4 as being a stable, reliable, enterprise-class, operating system for mission-critical business applications.

[I believe this is this press release (from SCO's website): http://ir.sco.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=95573]

Mr. Jacobs reads "High quality..." from the second line and asks Mr. Nagle if it says that?

Nagle: Yes.

SCO's Mr. Normand states that he wishes to make it clear that he has a standing objection to the relevance of the next three and one half minutes of questioning. Judge Stewart says he takes notice of his objection.

Mr. Jacobs asks if SUSE is a member of the OpenLinux consortium?

Mr. Nagle replies Yes, and SUSE was purchased by Novell one year later.

Mr. Jacobs asks, So one year later Novell will have a version from SUSE?

Nagle: Yes.

Mr. Jacobs refers to exhibit C14. Mr. Normand objects and Judge Stewart says it's noted. The exhibit, whose first 1/3 is redacted, is an email from Mr. Nagle dated May 8, 2003. He refers to the statement related to SUSE and asks if SUSE is reacting to the SCOsource campaign?

Mr. Nagle says, It seems so.

Mr. Jacobs reads that so far SUSE is not losing any sleep over the SCOSource campaign... because of (SCO's) contractual obligations. Mr. Jacobs asks, Isn't it true this was widely reported?

Mr. Nagle indicates he doesn't know.

Mr. Jacobs indicates it's Infoworld, it's widely distributed isn't it?

Mr. Nagle doesn't know, but accepts that it's widely distributed.

Mr. Jacobs refers to SCO exhibit 833 and represents to Mr. Nagle that the hand-written boxing, highlighting, were made on document by SCO. He says the document discusses the activities underway to transfer (something) to Novell. Mr. Jacobs asks, Is one activity listed transferring the source code in Intellectual Property plan?

Nagle: Yes.

Q: Describe the plan under the box.

Nagle: Activites to transfer intellectual property from Novell source code archives to SCO archives.

Mr. Jacobs asks, What is the intellectual property as described?

Mr. Nagle answers, The source code.

Mr. Jacobs, Isn't it the case that sometimes intellectual property can be described as source code?

Mr. Nagle answers, By lay people, Yes.

Mr. Jacobs, The copyright notice practices dated back to the old AT&T days, specifically the sub-licensing agreements?

Mr. Nagle replies to the effect that he's not aware of written practices.

Mr. Jacobs produces Novell exhibit E1, AT&T Technologies sub-licensing agreement with IBM and refers to the top of page 5 of the agreement, sub-paragraph B (2.0.8 section on previous page), and read "each portion... shall contain copyright notice ... or if copyright changes, identify owner of changes." Mr. Jacobs asks, Was it the case if a change is made, the company making the change placed a copyright notice to the change?

Mr. Nagle: ... true, to reflect third party changes for, example, drivers.

Mr. Jacobs, How much code has Santa Cruz contributed?

Mr. Nagle, I don't know.

Mr. Jacobs, Would it surprise you if it were millions?

Nagle: No.

Mr. Jacobs: Would it surprise you if they started with seven million and now it's fourteen million?

Mr. Nagle says he's not surprised.

Mr. Jacobs asks, There's no dispute to Santa Cruz's ownership to that code?

Nagle: No dispute.

Mr. Jacobs asks if Santa Cruz inserted copyright notices to their changes?

Mr. Nagle, We inserted copyright notices only on release, not on day to day record of our changes. But on third party changes we did.

Mr. Jacobs asks what the latest UnixWare is.

Mr. Nagle replies, UnixWare 7.1.4 is the latest.

Mr. Jacobs asks if they added copyright notices to it?

Nagle: Not sure if there was a source code release, but if there was, we would have added to every file since we owned all the source code to Unix.

Mr. Jacobs, At the time of transfer, the existing product was sold as-is without changing the copyrights?

Nagle: Yes, we understood the agreements were controlling, not the copyright notices in the product.

Mr. Jacobs produces a hand-drawn demonstrative on the digital projector which he purports to be the Unix tree. He indicates the trunk is Unix, and the branches UnixWare, etc. He asks, At the time of UnixWare 2.1 it consisted of System V, NetWare code, and Network code?

Nagle: Yes, includes at least that, but other third party code also.

Mr. Jacbos asks, and you placed copyright notices on that code?

Nagle: Yes.

Mr. Jacobs asks, would it be accurate to write "copyright notice" on this branch?

Nagle: Yes.

Mr. Jacobs asks, With IBM's AIX, would it surprise you they would place copyright notices on their release?

Nagle: No.

Mr. Jacobs writes "copyright notice" on the AIX branch.

Mr. Nagle continues that it's his opinion that the copyright notice on the box is more of a notice to come to see me to discuss copyright, not that it's meant to override the legal copyright on the files.

Mr. Jacobs states that he has no further questions.

Mr. Normand, on redirect, refers to SCO exhibit C14, middle paragraph, and asks if Mr. Nagle recalls being asked about UnitedLinux?

Nagle: Yes.

He asks if he sees the second line, "SCO, owner of OpenLinux?"

Nagle: Yes.

On being asks, Mr. Nagle states that none of what they contributed (to UnitedLinux) was part of SCO's core product.

Normand: Did Novell change the copyright notices to SCO on code that Novell now claims ownership to?

Nagle: Yes.

How do you know? Mr. Nagle answers that he was part of the team, that he directed the team that made those changes while he was working for Novell.

Do you recall Mr. Jacob's tree, with the trunk labeled System V and the branch labeled UnixWare?

Nagle: Yes.

Mr.Normand, Was it fair?

Nagle: No.

Q: Why was it not fair?

Nagle: Because System V was in all of the branches.

Mr. Normand produces his own, admittedly bad, demonstrative showing two concentric rings. The center he identifies as Unix, and the outer ring (not much larger) he identifies as UnixWare. He asks Mr. Nagle if it's a fair representation of Unix and UnixWare? Mr. Nagle said he would agree if the outer ring is labeled UnixWare 2.0.

(Reporters comment: Is is simply not possible in this entire case to properly describe the incremental development process of source code? Forget these trees and rings (both are SCO constructs) and use a LEGO house or a stack of paper, a different color for each contributor.... you own your own color.)

Mr. Normand scribbles out the center and asks, If he took away the center, would it work?

Answer: No, it's like selling a car to someone and years later coming and taking the engine back.

Mr. Jacobs then asks on re-cross, Can SCO ask HP to remove the core code?

Mr. Nagle answers, HP has a license, as long they are in compliance, they can use the code.

Mr. Jacobs has no more questions, and Mr. Normand indicates Mr. Nagle may be released. Judge Stewart admonishes him that while he will not be recalled he is not to discuss his testimony with anyone.

Judge Stewart recesses for weekend. He admonishes the jury that, as he first directed them, they are not to discuss the case with anyone or with other jurors, not by email, websites, Facebook, Twitter, etc. Do not read, etc. Do not do any research anywhere, etc. He tells them that they have only heard one side's case and have not heard all the evidence, that it would be inappropriate and unwise to make a decision until they have heard the entire defense's case and to only make up their minds at the end. He then releases them for the weekend.

Counsel for both parties indicate they have nothing for the Judge. Court was held in recess until 8:30 Monday morning.

Here's Caldera's press release, announcing Caldera OpenLinux. You can compare it with Nagle's testimony for yourself. And because SCO tends to remove such things, I'll reproduce it here for historians:

Caldera® Announces New Caldera OpenLinux® (COL) Platform and Three-Tier Product Strategy

New Technology and Stratified Products to Ship in 4th Quarter 1996 and Throughout 1997

Provo, UT October 9, 1996 Caldera Inc. today announced the development and implementation of Caldera OpenLinux (COL), a new 32-bit, Linux 2.x-based platform for extending local area networks (LANs) to the home, branch office, remote user, Inter/intranet and embedded systems. To extend the LANs in an economical and easily managed way, COL technology will be offered in three product stratifications; base, workstation and server. Caldera the leader in commercial Linux-based system software debuted COL this week at UNIX Expo in New York.

"Caldera first met customer demand for commercial Linux solutions by combining Linux technologies with enterprise standards like NetWare and Netscape Navigator," said Ransom Love, vice president of marketing and sales for Caldera. "From the best of these and other technologies have evolved the Caldera OpenLinux platform and stratified products. Caldera product offerings will now be based on the COL platform with complete stratified solutions for workgroup and network/server environments."

The secure, peer-to-peer COL platform first evolved from the synthesis of Caldera's existing Linux-based technologies and those acquired from Lasermoon of Wickham, England, pioneers of the Linux migration towards X/Open standards and other certifications.

The efforts of the Linux System Technologies (LST) of Erlangen, Germany, completed the evolution of COL by integrating the Caldera and Lasermoon technologies with additional Internet technologies and LST's Linux 2.x-based products. COL is the official upgrade path for Lasermoon customers.

Certification

Currently, Caldera is working with the Linux community in making COL compliant and certified with industry standards like POSIX.1 (FIPS 151-2), Single UNIX Specification APIs and X-Open branding. These additions will be in future releases of COL stratified products when the enhancements have been integrated by key Linux developers. All of the work for standards compliance will be freely contributed back to the Linux community.

Languages

Caldera is committed to providing products for the global Linux market. COL stratified products will ship with an installation localized into English and German. Additional components of the product will be localized into English, French, German and Spanish. Caldera also plans product localization for the Japanese and Chinese markets.

COL base

The COL base product includes the following:

* Linux 2.x (multi-tasking, multi-user, 32-bit kernel with firewall facilities and comprehensive system utilities open source code included on CD-ROM)

* Looking Glass (graphical user interface with icon bar, drag and drop, comprehensive file typing and user-defined configuration, etc.)

* Netscape Navigator 2.02 (the widely popular client software for enterprise networks and the Internet)

* X-Inside 1.3 (accelerated X-Window system with more than 400 graphical drivers) [Editor's update: the brand of X server to be used in this product is subject to change.]

* CrispLite (powerful, graphical text editor)

* Caldera Solutions CD (fee-based, commercial, Linux-based software applications from Caldera and other industry leaders)

* ... and other technologies

The COL base product provides Linux users and first time UNIX buyers with a comprehensive UNIX system that can run on Intel-based PCs including laptops with 16 MB of RAM. COL will be made available to hardware and software OEMs, Channel Partners and be the industry- standard platform for ISVs porting applications to Linux.

The Caldera Solutions CD allows resellers and Linux users to purchase and install from the CD-ROM Linux-based software applications to facilitate the creation of customized solutions.

COL workstation

Plans for the COL workstation product include:

* COL base product (Linux 2.x, Looking Glass, X-Inside 1.3 and CrispLite, etc.)

* Netscape Navigator 3.0 Gold (Java, news reader and authoring tools)

* NetWare Client and NetWare Administration Enhancements (Increased and enhanced NDS, bindery and print administration utility. Enhanced GUI desktop utilities, tightly integrated with the Looking Glass desktop)

* Market-leading, commercial, secure, web server (a complete solution for creating and managing web sites plus, the development and deployment of live, network-centric, media-rich applications for the Inter/intranet)

* Caldera Solutions CD

* ... and other technologies

COL workstation is the Inter/intranet workstation solution providing client and server capabilities for NetWare, UNIX and Windows NT in conjunction with full Inter/intranet, authoring, publishing and browsing capabilities. All services on the local network may be extended down-the-hall, to-the-home or around the world across a high-speed connection by simply adding a frame relay or ISDN commodity card to Intel-based PCs. COL workstation is the second-generation solution for Caldera Network Desktop (CND) customers and replaces CND.

COL server

* COL workstation product (Linux 2.x, Netscape Navigator 3.0 Gold, NetWare Client Enhancements, commercial, secure, web server etc.)

* Novell Cross Platform Services (NCPS) (includes license for Novell Directory Services (NDS) and five-user NetWare File and Print )

* Caldera Solutions CD

* Novell GroupWise (Caldera has contracted to include a five-user license)

* ... and other technologies

The COL server is designed for the workgroup and small office environments that need to fully utilize all systems. The COL server combines a complete applications server with all necessary Inter/intranet technologies enabling an organization to publish and interoperate with the Internet in a secure fashion. The COL server complements all NetWare, UNIX and Windows NT environments.

Future Development and Internet/Linux Community Funding

Caldera will continue to collaborate with developers in the Internet and Linux communities to develop and refine technologies that add the specific functionality requested by Caldera's customers. In addition, Caldera will provide a percentage of net revenues from COL-based products back to the Internet and Linux communities through funding for future technology development.

Customer Support

Support for the COL base product will be Internet-based, using the WWW and FTP. In addition to the Internet-based support, support for the workstation and server products will include free thirty-day installation support as well as fee-based, per incident support calls.

Pricing

The COL base product is scheduled to ship in November, 1996 for a suggested retail price of $59 US. The COL workstation product will ship for a suggested retail price of less than $300 US. The COL server product will ship for a suggested retail price of less than $1500 US.

Promotions and Upgrades

Until December 31, 1996, current registered CND users and those who purchase and register CND between now and December 31, or while supplies last, may purchase COL workstation for $59 US.

The COL base product is not an upgrade to CND. Users of the COL base product will be provided an upgrade to both COL workstation and COL server when these products ship.

Until December 31, 1996, current users of any Linux operating system (WGS LinuxPro, Red Hat, Slackware, Yggdrasil Plug and Play Linux, etc.) may upgrade to the COL base product for $45 US. Proof of usage may be presented to any Caldera Channel Partner or Caldera, Inc.

Caldera, Inc. designs, develops and markets a line of full-featured, economical system software for the Internet by the Internet, providing stable, high-quality alternatives to NT, Sun Solaris, and SCO UNIX. Caldera uses it own technological and marketing resources to leverage technologies including the Linux operating system created by independent developers worldwide. Visit the Caldera web site at http://www.caldera.com/.

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Caldera is a registered trademark; and Caldera OpenLinux, Caldera Network Desktop, Caldera Solutions CD and Caldera OpenDOS are trademarks of Caldera, Inc. UNIX is a registered trademark, in the United States and other countries, licensed exclusively through X/OPEN Company Limited. Netscape Communications, the Netscape Communications logo, Netscape and Netscape Navigator are trademarks of Netscape Communications Corporation. All other products, services, companies and publications are trademarks or registered trademarks of their respective owners.

Contact: info@caldera.com

And here is what Caldera Solutions CD was. You can find the technical details of UnitedLinux here on Caldera's homepage as it looked in late 2002. You can download the technical paper [PDF].

Here's the press release that Chris Brown thinks Mr. Brennan was using with Mr. Nagle as an exhibit:

SCO Unveils SCO Linux 4, Powered by UnitedLinux

Stable, Reliable Linux Platform Backed with Guaranteed Support from Trusted Operating System Vendor

LAS VEGAS---Comdex---November 19, 2002---The SCO® Group (SCO)(Nasdaq: SCOX), in coordination with the UnitedLinux 1.0 launch at Comdex, today announced the release of SCO Linux 4.0, powered by UnitedLinux. SCO Linux 4.0 is a high-quality Linux operating system designed for mission-critical business applications, with guaranteed stability, security and worldwide support from SCO. SCO Linux 4.0 is based on UnitedLinux 1.0, the core standards-based Linux operating system co-developed in an industry initiative to streamline Linux development and certification around a global, uniform distribution of Linux. SCO Linux 4.0, powered by UnitedLinux provides customers with the base UnitedLinux operating system as well as the additional software, support and services from SCO that customers need to successfully run Linux in business environments.

"SCO understands that for any operating system to be commercially viable, especially Linux, it needs a well-defined roadmap from a trusted supplier, who is committed to and capable of supporting it," said Andy Nagle, director of SCO Linux products. "SCO is uniquely qualified to make the UnitedLinux platform viable for business because of its proven track record in successfully building, deploying and supporting stable operating platforms for more than 23 years. SCO Linux 4.0 is built upon SCO's traditional combination of top OS platform technology, and support and service features that customers can rely on to support critical business environments."

"Because Linux is built on ideas and components from so many parties and is so widely distributed, the issue of support and reliability is still a key concern of customer and vendors," said Judy Chavis, worldwide Linux director, HP industry standard servers. "Built on a secure set of unified LSB compliant standards by UnitedLinux and with full support offerings from SCO, SCO 4.0 offers our customers another strong Linux platform choice for their worldwide Linux deployments."

"For hardware and software vendors, it has become an increasingly difficult task to certify their products across the many distributions of Linux. SCO Linux 4.0, powered by UnitedLinux can help vendors overcome that obstacle by providing widespread application support across the base of UnitedLinux distributions," said Bill Claybrook, Research Director for Linux and Unix at Aberdeen Group. "This in turn benefits IT departments by providing them with greater choice and support as they deploy Linux."

SCO Linux 4.0 is an ideal platform to support small to medium businesses and replicated branch sites such as retail store operations, hotel chains and banks. In these environments, operational efficiency and flexibility to respond to new customer demands are essential. SCO Linux 4.0 provides these qualities with the support and experience of a trusted supplier.

*SCO Linux 4.0 Features and Support*
SCO Linux 4.0, powered by UnitedLinux adds several features and support services:

* As an enterprise-class, industry-standard Linux operating system, UnitedLinux provides a /Single, Uniform Platform /for application development, certification and deployment, and allows Linux vendors, Independent Software Vendors (ISVs) and Independent Hardware Vendors (IHVs) to support a single Linux offering rather than many different versions. SCO offers certification services that will be accepted as support across all distributions of the "powered by UnitedLinux" family.

* /Stability/ with SCO's commitment to operating system quality and continuous operating system uptime, worldwide support and 12-18 month release cycles. This stable, predictable maintenance and support schedule makes SCO Linux 4.0 a smart choice for business IT needs.

* /Award-winning Support Services /are available from SCO for tasks including install, configuration support and 24x7 emergency response. SCO has a presence in more than 82 countries and can provide local language support worldwide. SCO's dedicated engineering services organization provides experienced support for UNIX, all other Linux platforms powered by UnitedLinux, as well as all RPM-based Linux distributions.

* /Maintenance /is guaranteed with every copy of SCO Linux 4.0. Each release of SCO Linux will be maintained for a minimum of two years, and SCO has a dedicated team of escalations engineers to work on fixes for the UnitedLinux platform. Maintenance includes notification of security patches and other critical upgrade information.

* /Customized Linux Solutions /are available through SCO's channel of more than 16,000 resellers. SCO's partners and resellers are willing to partner with OEMs to sell SCO-based solutions. SCO can incorporate the support of UnitedLinux into existing Engineering Services agreements providing a one-stop-shop for OEM customers requiring representation with SCO and the UnitedLinux development teams.

* /Certified Training /on UnitedLinux is available from SCO and SCO authorized education partners using award-winning SCO education materials.

To read what the industry is saying about SCO Linux, please visit
www.sco.com/company/press/quotes/scolinux.html.

*Pricing and Availability*

SCO Linux 4.0 is available today in four different editions:

SCO Linux 4.0 Server, powered by UnitedLinux *Base *Edition--$599

* Includes SCO Update maintenance service
SCO Linux 4.0 Server, powered by UnitedLinux *Classic *Edition--$699
* Includes unlimited installation and configuration technical support incidents via phone, Web or email for one year; SCO Update Service; five business hour response; designated technical support contacts; and Online Service Manager which includes access to current product technical articles and patches, ability to submit service requests online, and online support activity and status
SCO Linux 4.0 Server, powered by UnitedLinux *Business *Edition--$1249
* Includes unlimited technical support incidents via phone, Web or email for one year; SCO Update Service; three business hour response; designated technical support contacts; Online Service Manager (same access as Classic Edition)
SCO Linux 4.0 Server, powered by UnitedLinux *Enterprise *Edition--$2199
* Includes unlimited technical support incidents via phone, Web or email for one year; SCO Update Service; one business hour response during regular business hours; designated technical support contacts; 24x7 after-hours emergency service telephone support; Administrative Account Manager; Office Service Manager (same access as Classic Edition)
*About SCO*

The SCO Group (Nasdaq: SCOX), formerly called Caldera International, provides "Powerful Choices" for businesses through its UNIX, Linux and Volution product lines and services. Based in Lindon, UT, SCO has representation in 82 countries and 16,000+ resellers worldwide. SCO Global Services provides reliable localized support and services to partners and customers. For more information on SCO products and services, visit http://www.sco.com.

SCO and the associated SCO logo are trademarks or registered trademarks of Caldera International, Inc. in the U.S. and other countries. UNIX and UnixWare, used under an exclusive license, are registered trademarks of The Open Group in the United States and other countries. Linux is a registered trademark of Linus Torvalds. All other brand or product names are or may be trademarks of, and are used to identify products or services of, their respective owners.

And here's the white paper on UnitedLinux by John Terpstra, published by IBM, but advertised by Caldera on its home page in November of 2002. And the truth is, Caldera contributed a great deal of work to UnitedLinux, and tweaked the code and then distributed it, including the code they then sued IBM over.

Update: Maureen O'Gara is speculating that Charles River has sent observers to the trial "assessing whether there’s an opportunity to clean up if SCO wins." But looking at their latest SEC info and CEO statement, I wonder if they are flush enough these days themselves to take a chance on something as unlikely as SCO. They do have Intellectual Ventures in their portfolio, I notice.


  


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Corrections here please, if needed
Authored by: tiger99 on Saturday, March 20 2010 @ 09:35 AM EDT
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Off topic here please
Authored by: tiger99 on Saturday, March 20 2010 @ 09:36 AM EDT
Please remember those clickies where possible!

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Newspick discussions here please
Authored by: tiger99 on Saturday, March 20 2010 @ 09:38 AM EDT
Please remember to indicate which Groklaw newspick item you are referring to in
the title of your post.

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Comes comes here......
Authored by: tiger99 on Saturday, March 20 2010 @ 09:39 AM EDT
Which reminds me, I must get back to the ones I was doing. It has been a while.
We have all been too busy following the trial.....

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O'Gara's deposition was played: 'including her "jab at PJ" remarks'
Authored by: billyskank on Saturday, March 20 2010 @ 09:42 AM EDT
Now the jury are not allowed to know about Groklaw, so surely they don't know
who PJ is either. So if they caught that, they must be wondering what that was
all about...

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It's not the software that's free; it's you.

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Thanks to the reporters thread
Authored by: tiger99 on Saturday, March 20 2010 @ 09:43 AM EDT
I will start it off by thanking both for their diligent efforts, which really do convey the mood of the court proceedings very well.

It is the weekend guys. Please enjoy your well-deserved rest! PJ too.

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HP can defend their product.....
Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, March 20 2010 @ 10:03 AM EDT
" Mr. Jacobs then asks on re-cross, Can SCO ask HP to remove the core
code?

Mr. Nagle answers, HP has a license, as long they are in compliance, they can
use the code."

....even though they do not own the copyright to SCO code.

They are in the same situation with SCO as SCO is in regard to Novell.

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Agreements Were Controlling
Authored by: sk43 on Saturday, March 20 2010 @ 10:48 AM EDT
"Yes, we understood the agreements were controlling, not the copyright
notices in the product."

Doesn't this statement undermine the import of the whole process of changing the
copyright notices in the first place?

As an aside, why the obsession with changing the copyright notices? Is it about
asserting copyright ownership? No. It's all about packaging. From the TERM
SHEET [Novell-281-9], p. 11:

"On Nov. 1, SCO plans to sell the UnixWare product using existing Novell
stock with a SCO sticker on it. Once this stock is exhausted, SCO will be
responsible for manufacturing the UnixWare 2 product family. At this time, when
SCO sells the UnixWare 2 product, the SCO UnixWare 2 product packaging will use
the term "UnixWare" prominently on its product packaging, with a
potential product naming scheme of "SCO UnixWare." AT THIS TIME IT
WOULD BE DESIRABLE TO CHANGE THE NOVELL INSTALLATION SCREEN GIF FILE TO A SCO
FILE."

When SCO sell the UnixWare 2.1 product, the SCO UnixWare 2.1 packaging will use
the term "UnixWare" prominently on its product packaging, but since
it's solely a SCO product, WILL CEASE USING THE NOVELL NAME OR LOGO in
conjunction with marketing this product after the transition period."

It's all about marketing - make sure the customer sees the SCO name not Novell.

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we understood the agreements were controlling
Authored by: jacks4u on Saturday, March 20 2010 @ 11:20 AM EDT
Is Mr. Nagle dancing around the notion that 3rd party changes to source code
were updated with copyright info, but that a complete change of ownership wasn't
worth noting updating the copyright notices?

Or is it, instead that copyrights didn't change, everyone knew it, and notice
was NOT updated. Yet, years later, after the fog of time has clouded everyone's
memory, he dismisses the lack of updated notices so easily?

Am I missing something? or could Novell have pressed this a little further?

One question I have, is of the 'Unix' source files, how many, if any, carry SCO
copyright notices that date back to circa 1995 or close enough...

If I'm not mistaken, uname output could be changed by anyone having enough
kernel source to compile a new kernel, after a little text editing. At least
with Linux, Building a kernel can be scripted, a trivial affair, barring any
problems, of course. Configuring for a kernel is another issue entirely, and
therein lies the complexity, the required skills, etc....

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Novell's lack of hand-wringing
Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, March 20 2010 @ 11:36 AM EDT
Even though SCO has held serve for two solid weeks (and the end of their
witnesses not yet in sight), and with the judge seeming intent on having this
wrapped up on the 26th, I've not really noticed Novell becoming concerned about
SCO's.

Does this suggest that Novell expects the direct of their own witnesses to be
short and sweet? If SCO takes 2X longer on cross than Novell takes on direct
trying to impeach Novell's witnesses, and we get to Friday and Novell's not done
making their case, surely the judge can't tell Novell "tough luck"...

Oh, wait.

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Sanest SCO Testimony
Authored by: WWWombat on Saturday, March 20 2010 @ 11:55 AM EDT
We're 10 days in now, and even though only part of the testimony has been
reported, it doesn't surprise me that the sanest, and most detailed, testimony
from a SCO witness is from an engineer.

The difference from the execs, managers, sales & marketing folk, and the
paid experts seems, shall we say, palpable.

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Week 2, Day 10 of SCO v. Novell - Chris Stone, O'Gara, Maciaszek, Nagle
Authored by: odysseus on Saturday, March 20 2010 @ 12:13 PM EDT
Didn't seem to be much happening today, at least compared to previous days
bombshells :-)

My one query which I hope cpeterson clears up is whether Novell replaced their
copyright notices with Santa Cruz's, or if they added Santa Cruz's after their
own.

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Darl's Testimony
Authored by: MDT on Saturday, March 20 2010 @ 12:31 PM EDT
The more I think about Darl's testimony, the bigger the hole I think he put in
SCO's case without them perhaps realizing it.

If I were MoFo (and I am most certainly not!), I would use an analogy something
like this to explain it to the jury.

Novel Taxi & Limousine services decided that they weren't making enough
money with their Limo service, so they decided to sell it to Squinty Conartists
Organized. Squinty couldn't afford to buy the entire business, so they bought
the right to manage the Taxi's and bought the Limo's. Novel agreed to also give
them anything else they needed to run their Limo service, in the future, if they
missed anything. In exchange, Squinty agreed to pass 95% of the proceeds from
the Taxi service back to Novel.

Now, 10 years later, Squinty decided to expand their Limo service to include
Taxi-Limo services. Now, Squinty is using that clause about the Limo service to
claim that all Novel's taxi's are their's too, as they obviously need them to do
their new Taxi-Limo business.

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MDT

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Darl's investment
Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, March 20 2010 @ 12:59 PM EDT
Darl is about to spend $30k to buy $3M or more in assets from SCO. That sounds
like a good investment opportunity to me.

While CEO of SCO Darl descrived the SCO Mobile assets as worth several millions
of dollars. Darl is now set to scoop up these assets for a little more than
$30k. Looks like a nice 100:1 investment return to me. An instant cash transfer
from current SCO to Darl and who ever is co-investors are in the SCO mobile
assets.

Novell could really spin this as a payout to Darl if they wanted.

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'Added by Novell engineers in November 1995'?
Authored by: Dave Ivedorne on Saturday, March 20 2010 @ 01:07 PM EDT
"Mr. Normand refers to exhibit 'A' and exhibit 'B,' exhibits to the
redacted trial exhibit 655. (They are photographs of a computer screen) Mr.
Normand asks Mr. Nagle to describe the exhibit 'A' screenshot. Mr. Nagle says
that it shows the opening page of the online command reference manual for
UnixWare 2.1. Mr. Normand asks, It shows the copyright registration for Santa
Cruz? Yes, added by Novell engineers in November 1995."

Isn't he actually referring to AT&T/USL engineers who, by November 1995 (
post-APA ), actually worked for Santa Cruz? No other explanation actually makes
any sense, which would make his characterization appear to be "on the
sneaky side".

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A little research goes a long way
Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, March 20 2010 @ 01:45 PM EDT
If only SCO & predecessors had read some of the BSDi documents, they would have seen:
BSDI seeks to carry this burden by proving that AT&T and Plaintiff have widely published 32V without proper notice. [...] Version 32V source code has now been distributed, without notice, to literally thousands of licensees. Consequently, Plaintiff can have no valid copyright on 32V unless it can fit within one of the statutory or common law escape provisions. [...] Consequently, I find that Plaintiff has failed to demonstrate a likelihood that it can successfully defend its copyright in 32V. Plaintiff's claims of copyright violations are not a basis for injunctive relief.
From Opinion of District Judge Dickinson R. Debevoise of March 1993 which led to later settlement of the whole mess.

So, as we know, SCO would only be able to assert copyright to additions/changes that USL/Novell had made after this point and that's not the approach that they've taken. I rather wonder whether we'll see USL v. BSDi come up in Novell's case, since they could easily argue that they didn't transfer what wasn't there's to transfer.

z!
who is definitely not a lawyer, but does have a BSDi 1.0 CD around here somewhere

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  • A little research goes a long way - Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, March 20 2010 @ 03:02 PM EDT
    • Won't matter - Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, March 20 2010 @ 03:21 PM EDT
      • Won't matter - Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, March 20 2010 @ 03:38 PM EDT
        • Won't matter - Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, March 22 2010 @ 07:25 PM EDT
          • Won't matter - Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, March 23 2010 @ 07:52 AM EDT
No more bad news
Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, March 20 2010 @ 02:44 PM EDT

Tell cpeterson don't bring me no more bad news.

There seems to have been a number of "forgotten" items in the past few days. Some are minor; some appear to be big. Yesterday, there was a "missed" item that Novell wanted to bring into evidence, and they weren't able to: ALL of SCO's 8-K reports.

How did they "miss" this?

P.S. Thanks to cpeterson, Chris and all the other observers (oh, and PJ too) for their hard work.

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Week 2, Day 10 of SCO v. Novell - Chris Stone, O'Gara, Maciaszek, Nagle
Authored by: JamesK on Saturday, March 20 2010 @ 03:46 PM EDT
"Mr. Hatch feels like he's got the flu."

Yeah, I guess he may be feeling ill after what happened the day before. ;-)


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IANALAIDPOOTV

(I am not a lawyer and I don't play one on TV)

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I get the impression these Novell lawyers are confused as to who SCOG really is
Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, March 20 2010 @ 06:17 PM EDT
They have yet to address the fact SCOG is really Caldera, and their history with
Linux begins in 1994 and not 2001 through Santa Cruz. They have yet to call
SCOG on it.

Here's hoping they properly address this next week.

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Foreshadowing indeed....
Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, March 20 2010 @ 06:26 PM EDT

I find it interesting that it was clarified that the copyright notices where changed on documentation. It was interesting to note SCOG did not provide an example of the same change occurring on Source Code.

Additionally, I seem to recall that the copyright registrations that were included in the APA were also to documentation.

Combine that with the fact that SCOG keeps pointing out that Novell clearly indicated the copyrights changed to a book publishing - not software - company.

I'm expecting Novell to make that point clear at some time.

RAS

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Week 2, Day 10 of SCO v. Novell - Chris Stone, O'Gara, Maciaszek, Nagle
Authored by: Tufty on Saturday, March 20 2010 @ 06:29 PM EDT
>
UNIX is a registered trademark, in the United States and other countries,
licensed exclusively through X/OPEN Company Limited.
<

They wouldn't have needed to do that if they owned it, would they?


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Hey, wait a minute!
Authored by: Ian Al on Sunday, March 21 2010 @ 04:51 AM EDT
Darl McBride reassured Mr. Stone that "he wouldn't have to worry about that O'Gara business."
What did he mean by that?

Did he mean that, if Mr. Stone invested in his purchase of $2M dollars worth of SCOG assets for $35k then he wouldn't have to appear on the stand to face the MoG allegations?

But, how would that work? He was not CEO any more. How could he affect the BS&F game plan for the court case? Only Judge Cahn could do that. Surely, during his arm's-length negotiations, Judge Cahn did not agree to take part in Darl blackmailing one of his investors in this way so as to stump up the money?

No, no, it must be paranoia on my part. The simple explanation is the most likely. Darl was obviously going to...

Judge Cahn didn't...

Come on, help me out, here!

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Regards
Ian Al

I sentence you to seven years, or more with good behaviour.

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Speaking of press releases...
Authored by: Anonymous on Sunday, March 21 2010 @ 11:02 AM EDT

Speaking of press releases, here's one that I forgot about. It's Novell's December 1995 announcement, “Novell Completes Sale of UnixWare Business to The Santa Cruz Operation

Press Release

Novell Completes Sale of UnixWare Business to The Santa Cruz Operation

OREM, Utah -- December 6, 1995 -- Novell, Inc. today completed the sale of its UnixWare business to The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc. (SCO), finalizing an agreement first announced in September, 1995. Under the agreement, Novell receives approximately 6.1 million shares of SCO common stock, resulting in an ownership position of approximately 17 percent of the outstanding SCO capital stock. The agreement also calls for Novell to receive a revenue stream from SCO based on revenue performance of the purchased UnixWare business. This revenue stream is not to exceed $84 million net present value, and will end by the year 2002.

In addition, Novell will continue to receive revenue from existing licenses for older versions of UNIX System V source code. Also, Novell will receive royalties from SCO's licensing of its NetWare networking software, including NetWare Directory Services (NDS), for use in UnixWare based operating system products.

The transaction positions SCO to consolidate the UNIX System on the Intel platform. SCO plans to merge the SCO OpenServer Release 5 and SCO UnixWare product lines to create a standard high-volume UNIX operating system that contains integrated NetWare networking software. SCO has announced that the merged product will begin shipping in 1997. SCO has also announced that it will ship the next release of UnixWare in the first quarter 1996, and that this UnixWare product will include NetWare networking software to help customers integrate UNIX Systems with Novell networks.

Note especially, “Novell will continue to receive revenue from existing licenses for older versions of UNIX System V source code.”

That would have been especially relevant to Duff Thompson's testimony. But it's generally relevant to all the declarations and whatnot that claim Novell just retained binary revenues.

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Screenshots
Authored by: sk43 on Sunday, March 21 2010 @ 02:47 PM EDT
In case anyone wants to see the screenshots that Nagle was explaining to Normand
you can fetch them here

http://groklaw.net/pdf/Novell-347-3.pdf

Exhibit 3 to a Declaration of Ted Normand.

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Status Of UnixWare 2.1
Authored by: sk43 on Sunday, March 21 2010 @ 05:05 PM EDT
Andy Nagle's testimony and the screenshots all refer to UnixWare 2.1 Note the
date of the copyright notice - 1996.

At the time of the APA, UnixWare 2.1 was still under development. (It was
referred to as "Eiger"). SCO finished the work. It was released in
February, 1996. Why wouldn't SCO's be entitled to put its copyright notice on
it?

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.unix.sco.announce/browse_thread/thread/c89fb
e8e4769bc25/5aa0740415572113

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Charles River
Authored by: tiger99 on Monday, March 22 2010 @ 09:18 AM EDT
From their own web site:
CRV’s best investment prospect is an early-stage startup with a disruptive market-changing idea. We’re looking for opportunities where we can take smart, innovative founders and help drive them to success.
Well, Unix no longer qualifies, although in the beginning is was massively disruptive and market-changing, so it would seem to be the mobile stuff that they would be after.

But is the ability to spam mobile phones with a "postcard" a disruptive technology? Or even the more useful bits of the mobile technology? I doubt it, because if it was useful there would already be a product from someone with more development capital than SCO, and probably a few FOSS products too.

I can't imagine any genuine VC wanting SCO, but I can imagine a litigation troll wanting to acquire them. Charles River claim to be a genuine VC, however Idon't recognise any of the companies they list on their web site.

This is likely to be just some more MOG nonsense.

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Could somebody enlighten me, please?
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, March 22 2010 @ 09:21 PM EDT
Do I understand that correctly?

SCO owns the copyright on a book about the interface to a computer system and
provides the copyright notice of that boook as proof for having the copyright on
the code that makes up the interface described in the book?

That's brainsick.

cb

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