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Hotz Ably Fights for His Motion to Dismiss - Tells Court SCEA's Case Doesn't Belong in CA |
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Sunday, March 27 2011 @ 10:52 PM EDT
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George Hotz's lawyers are truly fighting hard for him. This case,
SCEA v. Hotz, they forcefully tell the court in a newly filed Reply [PDF] to SCEA's opposition brief along with Objections [PDF] to various SCEA declarations, doesn't belong in California. One important reason is that Hotz is just an individual, not an international corporation with bags of money to spend on litigation, and it's obvious that New Jersey would be more convenient for him. He lives there. The actions complained of happened there. Having a blog on the Internet shouldn't make you suable in every state in the union.Besides, SCEA doesn't make Playstation 3, the Reply points out, "the Playstation Computer and its firmware is made by Sony Japan", so Hotz wasn't directing his actions at SCEA. After all the discovery SCEA forced Hotz through, it still can't prove a link to California that would justify suing him there. There's no evidence that blickmaniac is Hotz.
The serial number that SCEA claimed was blickmaniac's doesn't match the serial number that Hotz provided the court. As for blickmanic, Hotz's lawyers have found a blog posting on the Internet from someone saying *she's* blickmanic, not Hotz. There's no evidence Hotz ever accepted the Playstation Network terms of service or opened an account. Personal jurisdiction over Hotz in California would be "unreasonable". And Hotz's motion should be granted because SCEA "has abused the jurisdictional discovery process". The Playstation Network Terms of Use, Hotz's lawyers point out, relate only to software, not hardware, and to software obtained via the Playstation Network, and "Hotz has affirmed that he did not obtain any software he is alleged to have circumvented through the PSN", and that, they tell the court, is fatal to SCEA's attempt to get jurisdiction over him via that route. All the over-the-top allegations, in short, that some journalists published last week after reading SCEA's filing are now answered ably, about blickmaniac, the Playstation Network, the California downloads, the serial number, SCEA's jurisdictional arguments, everything. I confess, this is getting exciting.
I'm posting it now so you can read it hot off the presses, but it's voluminous, so I'll just skim the surface and give you an overview, and later, I can add details. Here are the filings:
03/25/2011 - 112 -
OBJECTIONS to re 105 Declaration in Opposition, 104 Declaration in
Opposition,,, 107 Declaration in Opposition, Objections to Bricker
Declaration by George Hotz. (Attachments: # 1 Objections to Law
Dec, # 2 Objections to Liu
Dec, # 3 Objections to
Miller Dec, # 4 Objections to
Pierce Dec)(Kellar, Stewart) (Filed on 3/25/2011) (Entered: 03/25/2011)
03/25/2011 - 113 -
Declaration of Stewart Kellar in Support of Defendant Hotz's Reply to
SCEA's Opposition Brief filed byGeorge Hotz. (Attachments: # 1 Exhibit A, #
2 Exhibit
B, # 3 Exhibit C, #
4 Exhibit
D, # 5 Exhibit E, #
6 Exhibit F, # 7 Exhibit I, #
8 Exhibit
J, # 9 Exhibit K, #
10 Exhibit
L, # 11 Exhibit M)(Kellar, Stewart) (Filed on 3/25/2011) (Entered:
03/25/2011)
03/25/2011 - 114 -
Declaration of Alexander Stamos in Support of Defendant Hotz's Reply to
SCEA's Opposition Brief filed byGeorge Hotz. (Attachments: # 1 Exhibit
A)(Kellar, Stewart) (Filed on 3/25/2011) (Entered: 03/25/2011)
03/25/2011 - 115 -
Declaration of George Hotz in Support of Defendant Hotz's Reply to
SCEA's Opposition Brief filed byGeorge Hotz. (Kellar, Stewart) (Filed on
3/25/2011) (Entered: 03/25/2011)
03/25/2011 - 116 - Administrative Motion to File Under Seal Exhibits F
and M of Declaration of Kellar filed by George Hotz. (Attachments: # 1
Affidavit of Kellar, # 2 Proposed Order Granting Motion to Seal)(Kellar,
Stewart) (Filed on 3/25/2011) (Entered: 03/25/2011)
03/25/2011 - 117 - REPLY (re
57 MOTION to Dismiss FOR LACK OF PERSONAL JURISDICTION AND IMPROPER
VENUE ) DEFENDANT'S REPLY TO PLAINTIFFS OPPOSITION BRIEF filed byGeorge
Hotz. (Attachments: # 1 Proposed
Order)(Kellar, Stewart) (Filed on 3/25/2011) (Entered: 03/25/2011)
Terms of Service alone can't confer jurisdiction automatically, even if Hotz had agreed to them: "To the contrary, jurisdiction is only proper over a defendant pursuant to a Terms of Service Agreement if the dispute arises from such agreement." And this one doesn't. Check out this footnote:1 It is also worth noting that SCEA has failed to proffer any PSN TOS that could be applicable to Mr. Hotz, even assuming everything SCEA has said is true, because the PSN TOS SCEA has proffered was created after Mr. Hotz purportedly created a PSN account. The implication is that SCEA might be fighting dirty, providing misleading information to the court. Alternatively, SCEA goofed in a way that just happens to help them, if no one had noticed.
Hotz's Declaration tells the court what you suspected, that he never opened the documentation that came with his new Playstation3. He still has the sealed bag, or more accurately his lawyer does. You can see pictures of it in exhibits attached to Stewart Kellar's Declaration. The other consoles he got used didn't come with any instruction manuals, and consequently he never knew SCEA existed, let alone that it was in California or that it had any connection to Playstation3, and he thought and still thinks that Sony Japan owns Playstations3s. When he looks at his consoles, they all reference Japan, Sony Computer Entertainment. Not a word about SCEA. Consequently, when he offered to help Sony improve its security, he surely wasn't talking to SCEA, an entity he'd never heard of and didn't know existed. And on the issue of not playing fair, Hotz's attorneys have something to say about that in connection with the "blickmaniac" account:
Finally, SCEA has yet to offer any proof that Mr. Hotz accepted the PSN TOS. From the start of this case, SCEA has asserted dubious arguments, which are often contradictory, pertaining to the PSN. Initially, SCEA stated that Mr. Hotz had a PSN account under the name “Geo1Hotz”, which incidentally, does not include any information relating to Mr. Hotz. Dkt No. 31, Gilliland Dec. Ex. A. Nonetheless, SCEA argues that jurisdiction exists as a virtue of this account and points to the fact that Mr. Hotz frequently utilizes the username “geohot”, wholly ignoring that all other information indicates it has no connection with Mr. Hotz.
Now, SCEA claims that Mr. Hotz must have created a PSN account for the name “blickmaniac” because the serial number of one of the Playstation Computers that Mr. Hotz purchased-- including 3 Playstation Computers that were purchased used-- was used to register a PSN account. The serial number utilized by SCEA, however, is different from the serial number proffered by Mr. Hotz's attorney. Compare Law Dec., Ex. A, with Kellar Dec., Ex. L. Moreover, such information does not include any information relating to Mr. Hotz.3 The sole way SCEA attempts to demonstrate that “blickmaniac” is Mr. Hotz is an unauthenticated and hearsay blog posting where an individual attempts to sell an unlocked cell phone -- which is not unusual and major product retailers like Amazon.com sell. Curiously, a search for “blickmanic” also yields a hearsay blog posting where an individual using the name “eepog” claims that he is the owner of the “blickmanic” account and states “the PSN account was created by me!!!” Kellar Dec., Ex. K.
It is important to recognize the dubious nature of creating a PSN account. Just as someone can enter a false name or fake e-mail when entering personal information on a sweepstakes card, someone can enter the same false information when registering for a PSN account. Gilliland Dec. Ex. A.4 Similarly, an individual can also use a fake serial number or an improperly obtained serial number to create a PSN account.
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3 Curiously, the exhibit proffered by SCEA regarding the purported “blickmanic” account indicates that there was some form of purchase or transaction relating to this account. Law Dec. Ex. A. Consistent with SCEA's general refusal to provide Mr. Hotz with its requested discovery responses, SCEA has not provided any information pertaining to this transaction to Mr. Hotz's counsel.
4 Indeed, after this lawsuit was initiated, someone other than Mr. Hotz created a PSN account using Mr. Hotz's well-known e-mail address.
And as for the California downloads, they can't support jurisdiction for the following reason, in addition to the fact that Hotz was not selling anything or accepting money:SCEA attempts to put a spin on this case by identifying a number of downloads in California. But that identification is a red herring. His Code was downloaded over 323,518 times. Stamos Dec. ¶ 8. In other words, (and taking for argument's sake the validity of SCEA's geolocation software objected to in connection with this reply brief) 4.1 percent of total downloads were performed by California residents. Is Mr. Hotz suddenly subject to jurisdiction in every single state where an individual downloaded this software? Further, SCEA identifies two numbers of downloads, 5,700 prior to filing of the lawsuit, and then the total number running until after the injunction issued, 13,300. As this Court well knows, a defendant must have sufficient contacts with California at the time the cause of action accrues or, at latest, when the complaint is filed. They don't add that SCEA's lawyers most likely know that too, but the implication is floating free in the air that they once again have overstated their case and a bit misleadingly too.
Hotz's Reply begins with the Introduction, so here it is to give you a taste:
The message that Sony Computer Entertainment America ("SCEA") is conveying to George Hotz ("Mr. Hotz") and the public is of great consequence. SCEA advocates and encourages the Court to accept that simply by connecting to the Internet, you are consenting to jurisdiction anywhere in the world. SCEA has taken advantage of these unfamiliar concepts in order to present the Court with misleading sets of facts and affidavits.
Mr. Hotz is a 21-year-old individual who resides in New Jersey. He is not a multinational company, or even a company at all--he is just one person. He did not profit from his actions in question and he did not sell any circumvention devices. He is however, known for being a prodigy in the computer programming field. Mr. Hotz's actions which gave rise to the controversy are simple: (1) Mr. Hotz published code he independent created (“Code”)(2) Mr. Hotz used the Code on his Playstation Computer, and (3) Mr. Hotz posted his findings on his personal blog.
SCEA filed this action, claiming jurisdiction over Mr. Hotz is proper in California. SCEA then flooded the docket with affidavits from its lawyers and employees, offering ambiguous and misleading information. SCEA then indicated that it would undoubtedly confirm that jurisdiction in California is proper for Mr. Hotz through jurisdictional discovery. Now, after Mr. Hotz's computer hard drives, and a graphing calculator have been impounded, and Mr. Hotz' discovery responses have been timely submitted, SCEA still is unable to present evidence to refute the jurisdictional challenges asserted by Mr. Hotz. Instead, SCEA has only continued to flood the docket with dubious information, such as irrelevant hearsay blog postings filed under seal, and misleading affidavits from enigmatic employees with no explanations of the source of their personal knowledge.
I'll work on getting it all done as text, but one thing Hotz's lawyers point out is that there's some flimflam about what SCEA does:
To be clear, Sony Japan-- not SCEA-- is responsible for manufacturing, distributing, and marketing the Playstation Computer. Sony Japan is the owner of all rights, title, and interest in, to and under the copyrights in the PS3 Programmer Tools, although SCEA misleadingly lists this information under the heading “SCEA's Copyrights and Copyright Licenses”. Complaint, ¶30.
On the other hand, SCEA, which is not even a subsidiary of Sony Japan, focuses on the sales of products and video games. Complaint, ¶22. SCEA develops, markets and distributes video games, and speaks extensively about video games in its pleadings. Opposition, p2. However, Mr. Hotz' actions have nothing to do with video games and the Code does not provide users the ability to run pirated video games or any other pirated software, as SCEA claims. Opposition, p2.
Presumably, had one of Sony Japan's hundreds of affiliates initiated a lawsuit in a different forum, such affiliate would modify the discourse to argue that Hotz focused on music (e.g., Sony Music Entertainment, Inc.), movies (e.g., Sony Pictures Classics, Inc.), electric components (e.g., Sony Corporation, Inc.), or some other aspect tangentially related to the Playstation Computer in an attempt to confer jurisdiction in such forum. The Playstation Computer provides for many functions-- in fact, it's slogan is that “It Only Does Everything”. The fact that Mr. Hotz purportedly impacted the Playstation Computer does not mean that all of these affiliates, including component manufacturers in China, can suddenly claim that Mr. Hotz directed his activities toward them.
When one purchases a Playstation Computer and looks at its outer box, it has plastered on numerous places that it is a product of Sony Japan and all rights belong to Sony Japan. It only references Sony Japan-- not SCEA. When one takes the Playstation Computer out of its box and inspects it, it states it is a product of Sony Japan and all rights belong to Sony Japan. It does not reference California. When one installs the Playstation Computer firmware update that Mr. Hotz allegedly circumvented, which can legally be obtained through the internet as Mr. Hotz did, upon installation, it only refers to Sony Japan.
In the Kellar Declaration, reference is made to an agreement, filed as an exhibit, under seal, between SCEA and Sony Japan:7. Attached hereto as Exhibit F is a true and correct copy of a Business Agreement between Sony Japan ("SCEI") and SCEA. The document was produced by SCEA on February 24 at 8:12pm. The Agreement contains acknowledgments by SCEA that SCEI is the owner of all rights in the Playstation 3 system and related IP rights. The
produced business agreement has been modified to a shade of light grey. Because of the lightening of the file and the normal black text of the Bates stamps, I was unable to run
optical character recognition software (OCR) on the file or any other file from SCEA that was produced in this form. Because the exhibit was marked by SCEA’s counsel as Attorneys Eyes Only, it has been filed under seal. I'm sure Hotz is very grateful so many people donated money to help him add to his legal team. It can make a real difference.
Here is what Hotz's legal team writes about SCEA's abuse of discovery: IV. MR. HOTZ' MOTION SHOULD BE GRANTED BECAUSE SCEA HAS ABUSED THE JURISDICTIONAL DISCOVERY PROCESS
On February 2, 2011, Mr. Hotz timely filed this Motion. Two days later, SCEA served a slew of premature and abusive discovery documents on Mr. Hotz and sent multiple third party subpoenas prior to any procedural milestone that would permit such acts. Clearly the tactic was to overwhelm Mr. Hotz by thwarting proper discovery procedure. On February 10, 2011, the abusive discovery demands were thrown out from the bench and SCEA was required to call back its abusive subpoenas. Feb. 10 Hrg. Transcript [Dkt. 77] 32:9-11 and 33:22-34:8. Nevertheless, SCEA issued numerous frivolous subpoenas to harass Mr. Hotz. SCEA subpoenaed Twitter, Google, Youtube, Bluehost (webhost for Mr. Hotz's site), SoftLayer (webhost for psx-scene.com) and PayPal. As issued, none of those subpoenas limited categories of documents to "California" despite the limited jurisdictional discovery. After subpoenaing every entity it could think of,
SCEA still has nothing (and certainly nothing admissible) to connect Mr. Hotz to California.
SCEA also propounded extensive discovery requests on Mr. Hotz. SCEA sought 31 categories of documents (SCEA eventually withdrew five categories). Mr. Hotz timely and appropriately produced documents and/or provided an appropriate statement of compliance for each request. In contrast, SCEA's document production failed to comply with the instructions to produce TIFF files and SCEA intentionally sabotaged its produced files to prevent the use of OCR software, disabling Mr. Hotz from searching for text therein. Kellar Dec. Ex. L (compare Bricker Dec. filed with Court with Bricker Dec. produced to Mr. Hotz). SCEA also propounded nine interrogatories on Mr. Hotz. Similarly, he responded to each one. Finally, SCEA demanded an inspection of Mr. Hotz's impounded hard drives and Mr. Hotz's PS3s. SCEA subsequently withdrew its request to inspect the impounded hard drives, but now has reasserted this request.
At a hearing with Judge Spero, SCEA said it needed to search Mr. Hotz’s hard drives for a Software Developer’s Kit (“SDK”) because, they claimed, it contains information that SCEA is in California. Dkt. No. 93, 10-12. Judge Spero ordered the parties to meet and confer and submit a
joint letter by March 16. Order Dkt. No. 96 3:16-18. SCEA refused to meet in person regarding
the letter. Once Mr. Hotz’s counsel discovered the SDK does not contain what SCEA stated, Mr. Hotz sought to bring this matter to the Court’s attention in the joint letter. To prejudice Mr. Hotz’s position, SCEA refused to timely provide its portion of the letter, preventing Mr. Hotz from rebutting its arguments. Dkt. 99. SCEA’s bad faith acts caused the March 16 letter to be delayed. Id. SCEA is not in a position to vilify Mr. Hotz when it is SCEA that continues to proceed in bad faith.
SCEA's task, which it failed at, was to connect Mr. Hotz, in some concrete way to California. Rather than submit admissible evidence, SCEA provided the declaration of an unqualified expert Dkt. No. 105-2, Peirce Dec. SCEA submitted the declaration of SCEA employees provided without any foundation beyond a vague title. Dkt. No. 105-1, Liu Dec.; Dkt. No. 105 Law Dec.) Further, the Law declaration was not even signed under penalty of perjury; its contents are clearly misleading and inadmissible as discussed above. SCEA also submitted the declaration of Ryan Bricker, which nearly entirely consisted of hearsay printouts from the Internet. Dkt. No. 104, e.g., Exhs. F, I, J, K, L, N, O, T, & U.
Further, SCEA abuses the sealing process by filing documents under seal which have no business being sealed. SCEA seals periodicals and publicly accessible web pages, falsely designating such items as Confidential. See e.g. Bricker Dec. Exhs. H, L, M, N, P (publicly available documents and web pages filed under seal). SCEA is thwarting the openness of the Courts with its abusive sealing, yet in its latest filing, SCEA intentionally published Mr. Hotz’s home address despite the fact it knows the massive media coverage this case receives. Dkt No. withheld for Mr. Hotz’s privacy. SCEA even withholds information from this Court. Pierce Dec. Exh. A, filed under seal, redacts all IP Address information, tainting any claim of California connections to Mr. Hotz' site. SCEA is preventing the Court from doing its job.
These acts are indicative of SCEA’s pattern of abuse throughout this action. SCEA’s counsel has not conferred in good faith with Mr. Hotz’s counsel regarding the scope and method of jurisdictional discovery. SCEA’s counsel refuses all efforts to meet and confer in person on essential matters, in direct violation of Judge Spero’s standing order regarding disputes of parties and moots any argument SCEA has made about Mr. Hotz’s noncompliance with discovery. Contrary to SCEA’s assertions, Mr. Hotz has complied and continues to comply with SCEA’s discovery requests. Mr. Hotz has not thwarted discovery by going on a planned vacation. Mr. Hotz has scheduled his deposition and the inspection of his Playstation Computers.
To put a cap on SCEA’s bad faith acts, SCEA waited until the eve Mr. Hotz’s reply brief
was due to produce the most damning evidence of all: agreements between Sony Inc. and SCEA that eviscerate SCEA’s position that George’s acts were aimed at SCEA. SCEA produced these documents well after it agreed to produce all discovery documents. SCEA cannot be permitted to pervert the discovery process in this way. So, now we know more about the
difficulties we saw in the parties' filing of a joint letter. Hotz is saying that SCEA's lawyers were playing games, to withhold the very damning business agreement until it would be too late to file.
Update: The Declaration by Alexander Stamos is by the folks Hotz's lawyers hired to look at the logs produced by Hotz's webhosting firm. Their math doesn't match SCEA's, and you can see it all in Exhibit A, an Excel spreadsheet.
Here's the text of the Hotz Declaration:
STEWART KELLAR (SBN 267747)
[email]
E-ttorney at Law
[address, phone]
JACK C. PRAETZELLIS (SBN 267765)
[email]
MBV LAW LLP
[address, phone, fax]
YASHA HEIDARI (Pro Hac Vice)
[email]
HEIDARI POWER LAW GROUP LLC
[address, phone, fax]
Attorneys for Defendant George Hotz
UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
NORTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA
SAN FRANCISCO DIVISION
SONY COMPUTER ENTERTAINMENT
AMERICA LLC, a Delaware limited liability
company,
Plaintiff,
v.
GEORGE HOTZ, et al.,
Defendants.
___________________
Case No. 11-CV-000167 SI
DECLARATION OF GEORGE HOTS RELAT-
ING TO MOTION TO DISMISS AND IM-
POUNDMENT ORDER
Date: April 8, 2011
Time: 9:00 a.m.
Place: Courtroom 10, 19th Floor
_____________________________
I, George Hotz, declare:
1. I am of required age and competent in all respects to testify regarding the matter set forth herein. I have personal knowledge of the facts stated herein and know them to be true.
2. Prior to January 11, 2011 when plaintiff Sony Computer Entertainment America,
LLC ("SCEA") sued me, I had no knowledge of SCEA. Further, prior to that date I had no knowledge of SCEA's relationship to the Playstation Computer. I did not know that SCEA was located in California.
3. Prior to January 11, 2011, I had no knowledge of the location of SCEA's state of organization, the location of its headquarters, or the location of its principal place of business. In short, I had never heard of SCEA until they sued me.
4. While creating the code that achieves interoperability between computer programs ("the Code"), I believed the Playstation and its firmware were owned by the Japanese company Sony Computer Entertainment, Inc. I still believe this to be true.
5. The impounded hard drives and calculator were and are the only storage devices in my possession, custody or control, containing the Code that achieves interoperability between computer programs at the time of the the impoundment order.
6. The Blue USB Stick did contain the Code shown in my YouTube video but no longer contains such Code. I deleted the Code from it prior to this litigation.
7. The Code was stored on the web server for geohot.com but was deleted from the server on January 27, 2011 to comply with the Temporary Restraining Order [Docket No. 50]. The Code was also posted on Pastie. org and Github.com. Originally, it did not occur to me that these locations counted as within my custody or control. However, seeing as the Code was stored there, and in the interest of openness and completeness, I am now identifying those locations.
8. Other than the above-identified, I have not stored the Code anywhere else.
9. I did not receive any money, and specifically stated on my website that I did not want any money for the Code. I did not track users who accessed my website.
10. I never opened the instruction manual and related documentation that came with the Playstation3 that I purchased new. The instruction manuals were included in a sealed plastic bag that remains sealed, as I have not ever opened it. I placed all of my Playstation 3 consoles and the instruction manual in the custody and care of my attorney Mr. Stewart Kellar.
11. The Playstation 3 consoles I received used did not include any instruction manu-
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als or other accompanying literature whatsoever. I believe the used Playstation I purchased from Gamestop may have come with instruction manuals, which I never opened or read. I believe I threw the manuals out when I threw away the ugly box that the used Playstation came with. The reason I kept the slim box (for the Playstation I purchased new) was because it was pretty.
12. Examining my Playstation computer only lists Sony Computer Entertainment, Inc. Nowhere on the Playstation computer does it list SCEA.
13. I downloaded the Playstation firmware version 3.55 via direct link and not from the Playstation network or us.playstation.com. During installation, the firmware only listed Sony Computer Entertainment, Inc. and did not refer to SCEA.
14. Although I have a blog, the number of responses to my posts is overwhelmingly large. I do not, and it is not feasible for me to, read all the comments. Nonetheless, I have never read any posting on my blog that alleges the existence of SCEA.
15. I could not have sought employment with SCEA because I did not know of SCEA's existence.
16. Communicating with my attorneys across the country has been difficult. Because SCEA has been actively pursuing me, I have had to communicate with my attorneys nearly every day, often numerous times each day, at all hours.
17. I believe SCEA is a huge company with comparatively limitless resources. I, in comparison, have very limited resources to devote to this lawsuit. At this time, New Jersey is clearly a more convenient forum for me.
I declare under penalty of perjury under the laws of the United States of America that the foregoing is true and correct and that this declaration was executed on March 25, 2011.
signature
George Hotz
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Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, March 28 2011 @ 12:29 AM EDT |
I think the end result of this discovery is that this case was not valid to
begin with. I'm expecting the judge to toss the case, and Sony's lawyers to
give up.
Who thinks SCEA will refile this case in New Jersey? On what
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- Hotz Ably Fights for His Motion to Dismiss - Tells Court SCEA's Case Doesn't Belong in CA - Authored by: rsteinmetz70112 on Monday, March 28 2011 @ 12:32 AM EDT
- Hotz Ably Fights for His Motion to Dismiss - Tells Court SCEA's Case Doesn't Belong in CA - Authored by: darrellb on Monday, March 28 2011 @ 08:38 AM EDT
- Want to borrow Judge Briss? - Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, March 28 2011 @ 08:50 AM EDT
- Hotz vs SCEA - Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, March 28 2011 @ 12:09 PM EDT
- Hotz Ably Fights for His Motion to Dismiss - Tells Court SCEA's Case Doesn't Belong in CA - Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, March 28 2011 @ 12:58 PM EDT
- Hotz news! I can confidently state that SCEA will not refile in NJ! - Authored by: Ian Al on Monday, March 28 2011 @ 01:11 PM EDT
- Hotz Ably Fights for His Motion to Dismiss - Tells Court SCEA's Case Doesn't Belong in CA - Authored by: Laomedon on Monday, March 28 2011 @ 01:26 PM EDT
- You're new here, aren't you? - Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, March 28 2011 @ 03:38 PM EDT
- Not quite - Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, March 28 2011 @ 05:18 PM EDT
- Hotz Ably Fights for His Motion to Dismiss - Tells Court SCEA's Case Doesn't Belong in CA - Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, March 28 2011 @ 06:20 PM EDT
- Hotz Ably Fights for His Motion to Dismiss - Tells Court SCEA's Case Doesn't Belong in CA - Authored by: wvhillbilly on Monday, March 28 2011 @ 11:58 PM EDT
- Hotz Ably Fights for His Motion to Dismiss - Tells Court SCEA's Case Doesn't Belong in CA - Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, March 28 2011 @ 11:59 PM EDT
- Will Sony Japan file a case? No. - Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, March 29 2011 @ 02:37 AM EDT
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Authored by: nsomos on Monday, March 28 2011 @ 12:33 AM EDT |
More evidence of SCEA not fighting fairly.
In the Objections to Pierce (sic) Dec
http://www.groklaw.net/pdf2/SonyvHotz-112-4.pdf
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Peirce's Declaration was late filed. SCEA must play by the rules,
just like all other litigants. Opposition to Mr. Hotz' Motion to Dismiss
was due on March 18, 2011
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The Peirce Declaration was filed on March 19, 2011.
This is cause to strike it in its entirety.
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Reminds me of how SCOG would bend or break rules.[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: SilverWave on Monday, March 28 2011 @ 01:05 AM EDT |
What _are_ they thinking?
Do they even have a PR department?
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Authored by: kawabago on Monday, March 28 2011 @ 01:25 AM EDT |
This is the fault of the American Cultural Privateers!
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Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, March 28 2011 @ 01:42 AM EDT |
As a naive outsider juristriction just isn't that important. Given the
dollars involved, a 'mere individual' could just move to California for
the duration of the trial for a pittance of what the defence will cost.
Similarly it would cost SCEA almost no more to sue in NJ. So obviously
there is an invisible battle here - and I'm at a loss to understand why
SCEA want him in California so desperately. I have posted previously
that it most be because of some obscure and ill-worded CA law.
In the end though, it just looks strange to me. Even if he wins this
battle, it's not even really part of the case. They'll just sue in NJ and
continue from there.
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- This is so strange - Authored by: SpaceLifeForm on Monday, March 28 2011 @ 01:54 AM EDT
- This is so strange - Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, March 28 2011 @ 02:42 AM EDT
- Forum shopping or perhaps something worse - Authored by: jbb on Monday, March 28 2011 @ 03:37 AM EDT
- MOVE? you are kidding right? - Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, March 28 2011 @ 07:20 AM EDT
- uh, dismissal with prejudice? - Authored by: designerfx on Monday, March 28 2011 @ 08:18 AM EDT
- Perhaps You're Not Tied Down? - Authored by: lnuss on Monday, March 28 2011 @ 08:34 AM EDT
- This is so strange - Authored by: celtic_hackr on Monday, March 28 2011 @ 11:23 AM EDT
- Another Outsider comments - Authored by: maroberts on Monday, March 28 2011 @ 11:51 AM EDT
- This is so strange - Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, March 28 2011 @ 12:18 PM EDT
- California Comprehensive Computer Data Access and Fraud Act §502 - Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, March 28 2011 @ 06:47 PM EDT
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Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, March 28 2011 @ 03:05 AM EDT |
IANAL but it seems that not only is jurisdiction wrong as it should be in NJ but
that the case should have been between SCEI and George Hotz.
Now if this is indeed correct for SCEI to be bringing the action against George,
how does this bode for the OtherOS class action where SCEA is the defendant? [ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, March 28 2011 @ 03:19 AM EDT |
Sony are bending over backwards to be accommodating and
generous to Hots. I think their kindness and lenience
is to be commended.
If they were truly an evil company they would have him
extradited to Japan to be tried there.
So please, Groklawers, exercise some moderation in your
criticisms of such a noble and respected company.[ Reply to This | # ]
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- Gromlaw is being unfair to Sony - Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, March 28 2011 @ 04:44 AM EDT
- Gromlaw is being unfair to Sony - Authored by: complex_number on Monday, March 28 2011 @ 06:07 AM EDT
- Gromlaw is being unfair to Sony - Authored by: Steve Martin on Monday, March 28 2011 @ 06:30 AM EDT
- Did you even read the article?? - Authored by: Cassandra on Monday, March 28 2011 @ 06:38 AM EDT
- Gromlaw is being unfair to Sony - Authored by: Stumbles on Monday, March 28 2011 @ 07:08 AM EDT
- Gromlaw is being unfair to Sony - Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, March 28 2011 @ 11:25 AM EDT
- Gromlaw is being unfair to Sony - Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, March 28 2011 @ 12:26 PM EDT
- Thanks for telling us about the site..... - Authored by: Kilz on Monday, March 28 2011 @ 12:54 PM EDT
- Gromlaw is being unfair to Sony - Authored by: PJ on Monday, March 28 2011 @ 01:28 PM EDT
- Gromlaw is being unfair to Sony - Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, March 28 2011 @ 07:45 PM EDT
- Do you have any proof that this would be against the law in Japan? - Authored by: The Mad Hatter r on Monday, March 28 2011 @ 11:39 PM EDT
- Gromlaw is being unfair to Sony - Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, March 29 2011 @ 03:44 AM EDT
- Gromlaw is being unfair to Sony - Authored by: wvhillbilly on Tuesday, March 29 2011 @ 01:28 PM EDT
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Authored by: maroberts on Monday, March 28 2011 @ 05:51 AM EDT |
I can't help wondering whether the post was the start of an "I'm
Spartacus" campaign??
On a more serious note, I'm glad to see the weekend off seems to have PJ back on
form and firing on all cylinders again - maybe she should have some more
weekends off occasionally.... :-P[ Reply to This | # ]
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- I'm PJ - Authored by: Ian Al on Wednesday, March 30 2011 @ 03:42 AM EDT
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Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, March 28 2011 @ 08:58 AM EDT |
In Hotz's lawyers response defending their motion to dismiss,
they allege that the serial number Sony used to track
'blickmanic' to Hotz didn't match the ones they surrendered.
It states 'Compare Law Dec., Ex. A, with Kellar Dec., Ex. L'.
I can see Kellar Dec., Ex. L being a copy of the statement by
Sony giving the PS3 Serial # they claimed to track and that
seems to match the one that they took of Hotz's PS3 in Ex. I,
but I can't find Law Dec., Ex A. Where is it?[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, March 28 2011 @ 09:29 AM EDT |
You should have listened to these bright lawyers and drop the
suit in California. They do want you to sue Hotz in Japan,
don't you see? It's so much more convenient for somebody
located on the East Coast to attend court in Japan than on the
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- Yeah, Sony! - Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, March 28 2011 @ 12:20 PM EDT
- Yeah, Sony! - Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, March 28 2011 @ 11:25 PM EDT
- Why should Sony care? - Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, March 29 2011 @ 12:04 AM EDT
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Authored by: tz on Monday, March 28 2011 @ 09:41 AM EDT |
(We need a PJ vacation donation button -PJ Rocks!, but even better when
recovered)
One of my general problems with the whole judicial system is that big
corporation lawyers can violate any rule or decorum or whatever and never have
any real sanction or be held in contempt of court.
So all of the junk hearsay will be admitted, the papers filed after deadlines
admitted, The lies and games ignored, and no matter if there is no connection,
the judge will let SCEA bring the case in California.
PJ says judges are supposed to be independent. If these courts and judges are,
they should not tolerate any of this and dismiss everything with prejudice in
one of those erudite decisions that sounds so polite but will slap SCEA and it's
legal team in the face so it will leave a permanent mark.
If not, why should I have faith in the court system? Maybe after spending
millions of dollars in defense, Hotz might ultimately win - but the million
dollars will be a real loss.
The judge is supposed to be the referee. If the referees are corrupt there is
no point in trying to win the game.
Does no one like the bar association file amicus curiae briefs over atrocious
behavior by lawyers? How can they get away with such things - they apparently
think they can.
And where is Sony Japan? What do they have to say about their associate
organization? Shame on every branch and employee in Sony Japan.
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Authored by: esni on Monday, March 28 2011 @ 12:27 PM EDT |
I must have been sleeping, so please explain this again:
Apart from the harassment potential, why would the SCEA prefer to sue in
California?
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Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, March 28 2011 @ 01:10 PM EDT |
Anyone reading this article who is personally acquainted with a SONY employee
should encourage them to review these articles and consider how their employer's
actions reflect on them as individuals.[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, March 28 2011 @ 03:34 PM EDT |
Can we expect to see man pages entered as evidence? [ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: jacks4u on Monday, March 28 2011 @ 03:36 PM EDT |
So, does Hotz claim SCEA lacks standing to even bring this suit? I think his
Lawyers skirt that claim, but don't actually assert lack of standing...[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, March 28 2011 @ 04:23 PM EDT |
SCEA should just drop the case and tell Sony Japan to sue him in New Jersey.
Then jurisdiction wouldn't be the question. Also, at that point, Hot's
attorney's need to rightfully claimed no damage done, since it was
"hacked" and Open before that using dongle methods since Sept last
year...[ Reply to This | # ]
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Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, March 29 2011 @ 01:30 AM EDT |
Ya. I think you have it about right. Unfortunately, this
also demonstrates how corrupt the judiciary and the legal
system is in the US.[ Reply to This | # ]
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- Premature - Authored by: jbb on Tuesday, March 29 2011 @ 05:27 AM EDT
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Authored by: cricketjeff on Tuesday, March 29 2011 @ 11:21 AM EDT |
If you OS isn't working,
Sue your users!
There are difficulties lurking,
Sue your users!
If your profit are not stellar,
Do not blame the finance feller,
Just start phoning up your lawyers,
Sue your users!
If you've sold them what they needed,
Sue your users!
If your pleas are hardly heeded,
Sue your users!
If they moan you stole their features,
Just despise the foolish creatures,
You've a block of high price lawyers,
Sue your users
You won't need to prove they did it,
Sue your users!
lack of evidence, they hid it!
Sue your users!
There are judges who will back you,
And your company won't sack you,
Give more money to your lawyers,
Sue your users!
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